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chube 11-08-2006 02:09 PM

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He's a nice guy but I find pretty anoying to watch $ leave my table and go in his pocket.


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If he's as good of a player as you say he is, then you should be happy when he goes away from your table, with or without your money.

Murdz 11-08-2006 02:57 PM

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A couple of things to keep in mind. First, the casino is paying the dealer minimum wage to keep the game going. So that has to factor in his overall strategy.

Second, I think there is something to be said for chatting people up, smiling and being an overall nice guy to get control of the table.

I can't tell you how bad these low limit grinder guys are for the games. So many times, I will get the table laughing having a good time and one of these personality-less nitwits sits down at the table with his hooded sweatshirt and i-pod. "Raise. Raise. Raise. "

Pretty soon everyone tightens up. The lady guzzling pinot grigio leaves, the foreign guy who has some cash in front of him loses a big pot. Everyone stops talking and the good times are over. And next thing you know a 1-3 table has now become the Final Table of the World Series of Poker. And for chrissakes, don't let the low limit grinder guy get sucked out on for a big pot early. Then there will be a barrage of insults and ridiculous cursing.

So I think while the dealer may not make as much as he can on any one specific hand, he keeps a light mood at the table while playing semi-correct poker which is always good for the bottom line.

canis582 11-08-2006 04:30 PM

Re: HIT AND RUN SPECIALIST
 
Even politicians like Bush will smile and joke as they screw u. That way u will keep letting them do it.

youtalkfunny 11-08-2006 10:30 PM

Re: HIT AND RUN SPECIALIST
 
This version of "rat-holing" has absolutely no impact on his EV, or yours.

I'm a dealer, and I prop a lot, and I win a lot more than I lose. When I've got a big stack of chips, the players all whine about the "expert house player" sent over to take all their money.

Your guy is probably just trying to avoid that. Frankly, I think it's a good idea, and I might start to do it.

Trouble is, I hate the thought of leaving a table that has given me so many chips. I'm not independently wealthy, I can't just walk away from +EV.

Lottery Larry 11-08-2006 10:36 PM

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He's a good player and will only stay a short time and this BOTHERS you? You should be thanking him

aal113086 11-08-2006 10:55 PM

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IS THIS A NL GAME?????? cus if not then the guy sounds like a moron and thats prolly why he's dealing cards for a living

AngusThermopyle 11-08-2006 11:08 PM

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IS THIS A NL GAME?????? cus if not then the guy sounds like a moron and thats prolly why he's dealing cards for a living

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He plays in mostly 10/20 and below

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You really think he is talking about a dealer 'propping' a $10/$20 NL game?

chimpanzepoopdic 11-10-2006 02:19 PM

Re: HIT AND RUN SPECIALIST
 
I know that this sort of hit and run strategy is generaly frowned upon by the poker room management and the poker regulars, however I think in the midst of the busy weekends (especially in the lower limits) it would go more unnoticed. I think that much thought and reasoning has gone into his strategy, and it suits him well because of his situation. Many times if I have a good run early in a session I will take my winnings and move up a level, but I haven't ever simply switched tables just to go south. Also, I'm sure everyone has switched tables before to try get in a better game. I'm leavin in a couple of hours for another poker trip. We will be back sunday night or maybe monday morning. I'll see how it goes.

Red Stine 11-10-2006 04:16 PM

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I know that this sort of hit and run strategy is generaly frowned upon by the poker room management and the poker regulars,

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Stop worrying about what other people think. Other people don't pay your bills. You do what works for you, and let others do what works for them.

The intelligent customers hate paying a high rake. Do you think that management cares? Do you really think management sits around and says, "Hey, Joe Blow hits and runs a lot--we hate this guy. He's hurting our business.

You're worrying about the wrong things.

Don't concern yourself with the strategy others employ. If you see someone doing something you like, copy it and try it yourself. That's how you learn, by watching others. You try this and that and use what works for you.

Bottom line:

Get the money, get out, and then go bone that guy that said you wanted to bone the other guy because he wanted to bone you. Oh well, you get the idea.


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