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BGnight 08-22-2007 12:44 PM

OOP in 3bet pot. Sorta deep
 
Villian is running 21/15. His post flop aggression was standard for a TAG. I've been pretty active.
So, how is the best way to play this postflop given stack sizes and being OOP? I didn't like b3betting cuz I don't think he's raising w/ air enough to get him to fold and it seems like higher variance this deep. So, I just went for the good ol c/raise semibluff hoping i was just trapping cbet $$
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

saw flop|saw showdown</font>

MP ($143.10)
Button ($264.40)
Hero ($397.95)
BB ($373.90)
UTG ($254.50)

Preflop: Hero is SB with http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/ts.gif, http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/8s.gif.
3 folds</font>, Hero raises to $8</font>, BB raises to $24</font>, Hero calls $16.

Flop: ($48) http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/7c.gif, http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/9s.gif, http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/4h.gif (2 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB bets $38</font>, Hero raises to $112

Thinky 08-22-2007 12:48 PM

Re: OOP in 3bet pot. Sorta deep
 
I dont know about preflop. In position, I want to see a flop. I would just dump it preflop after you got reraised.

I like the check raise on the flop. You have a solid image and I think if villain is any good he would have a hard time calling with anything less than 2 pair.

shadow33 08-22-2007 12:49 PM

Re: OOP in 3bet pot. Sorta deep
 
Whats your plan for:

1) He pushes
2) He calls

Nielsio 08-22-2007 12:51 PM

Re: OOP in 3bet pot. Sorta deep
 
Meh, you can go a number of ways. Personally I think I like two barreling. c/r is wayyy awkward if he calls and you blank.

Bigmoney 08-22-2007 01:39 PM

Re: OOP in 3bet pot. Sorta deep
 
you have no FE

Veron 08-22-2007 01:44 PM

Re: OOP in 3bet pot. Sorta deep
 
I think preflop is very bad. Position is even more important when you're this deep, so fold after the 3bet.

runstop 08-22-2007 01:45 PM

Re: OOP in 3bet pot. Sorta deep
 

yeah, probably not alot fe. I probably just c/c the flop and fold a missed turn.

oh, and fold pf. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Paul Thomson 08-22-2007 02:16 PM

Re: OOP in 3bet pot. Sorta deep
 
PREFLOP: I'd much rather be in position but whatever.

POST FLOP:
Check-raise is pretty terrible because you'll almost be pricing yourself in if he pushes. And if you don't think that he's raising your flop lead with air very often than leading is so so much cheaper considering that he likely has a good hand since he 3-bet preflop.

I prefer bet/3-bet...stack sizes are pretty good for it. If he calls your flop bet, I'd probably lead the turn even if the turn is a blank. Online players hate losing 200bb stacks and often play xtra nitty.

Pat Southern 08-22-2007 02:36 PM

Re: OOP in 3bet pot. Sorta deep
 
I would never call here OOP. As played I would try to play it like a set, and on this board that would probably mean check/call on the flop, and my action would vary on different turns.

thac 08-22-2007 02:41 PM

Re: OOP in 3bet pot. Sorta deep
 
I would probably lead flop and check/raise any turn because I think we get the max amount of money in from his weaker holdings and we can get a few better hands to fold (c/r flop is okay but you are in an awkward spot when he shoves)


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