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zasterguava 11-30-2007 03:03 PM

Re: I don\'t know anything about politics
 
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The Constitution is a sinister document meant to enslave the people?

Well, at least your being honest about your insanity.

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Thats not what I said. What I will see is that even the old Fuedal systems prevalent in Europe granted people 'the right to live' more thn the constitution.

xorbie 11-30-2007 03:05 PM

Re: I don\'t know anything about politics
 
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I would suggest reading Plato's Republic for a philosophical background to modern politics. Don't be deterred by the people who disdain the book because of its conclusions but don't understand the positive that comes with the thought process stimulated by the book.

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Please don't start with something like this. IMO, try to come up with your own philosophy first, then read other's ideas. Trying to read philosophy of politics without understanding history and politics first is pointless.

xorbie 11-30-2007 03:15 PM

Re: I don\'t know anything about politics
 
If you do want to read up on political/economic philosophy, just go to wikipedia and look up Plato, Aristotle, Locke, Rousseau, Paine, Machiavelli, Marx. I'd persoanlly also try to read up on Emmerson, Thoreau, Nietzsche, a few western Marxists (I like Marcuse). Then read up on Adam Smith, Keynes, Friedman, Ken Arrow, Paul Samualson.

You'll realize that it's impossible to understand politics and history without understanding social physchology, economics, some cultural anthropology, etc. etc.

zasterguava 11-30-2007 03:26 PM

Re: I don\'t know anything about politics
 
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If you do want to read up on political/economic philosophy, just go to wikipedia and look up Plato, Aristotle, Locke, Rousseau, Paine, Machiavelli, Marx. I'd persoanlly also try to read up on Emmerson, Thoreau, Nietzsche, a few western Marxists (I like Marcuse). Then read up on Adam Smith, Keynes, Friedman, Ken Arrow, Paul Samualson.

You'll realize that it's impossible to understand politics and history without understanding social physchology, economics, some cultural anthropology, etc. etc.

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QFT. I accidently stumbled ( [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]) across a collection of ebooks featuring most of the above authors; like 1000+ ebooks. Note; was not a torrent; but a private collection and can not divulge in how to acquire it.

vulturesrow 11-30-2007 03:29 PM

Re: I don\'t know anything about politics
 
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If you do want to read up on political/economic philosophy, just go to wikipedia and look up Plato, Aristotle, Locke, Rousseau, Paine, Machiavelli, Marx. I'd persoanlly also try to read up on Emmerson, Thoreau, Nietzsche, a few western Marxists (I like Marcuse). Then read up on Adam Smith, Keynes, Friedman, Ken Arrow, Paul Samualson.

You'll realize that it's impossible to understand politics and history without understanding social physchology, economics, some cultural anthropology, etc. etc.

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QFT. I accidently stumbled ( [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]) across a collection of ebooks featuring most of the above authors; like 1000+ ebooks. Note; was not a torrent; but a private collection and can not divulge in how to acquire it.

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zas,

PRetty please? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

xorbie,

Nice post. Wikipedia is a great place to start researching.

Snowball,

That is a ridiculous list, as lehighguy pointed out.

faarcyde 11-30-2007 04:08 PM

Re: I don\'t know anything about politics
 
Whatever you do, please don't read blogs until you have researched politics and history in depth and are able to form your own opinions instead of just regurgitating what some failed journalist or poli-sci major without a job has to say about Alberto Gonzalez.


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