Aviaton Club Paris
 

Hi,

Wednesday I'll be making a trip report to Paris and the Aviation club to play poker. Just wanted to ask anybody that knows the casino what games and limits they offer and how their door-policy is (heard it was difficult to get into). Thanks.

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http://www.aviationclubdefrance.com/home_uk.html

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Merci.

Perhaps I formulated it badly, but besides the facts I also was wondering about people's experience in the casino, especially the poker room. How are the players, are the waiting lists for the low limits big, was is the atmosphere like, etc?

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you may also want to look at

http://www.cerclewagram.com/
and
http://www.pokerconcorde.com/concordegb.html
I have no first hand experience of Poker in Paris to share with you but you can have an inside view of "concorde" here http://www.linternaute.com/acheter/h...itiation.shtml

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Hi,

Wednesday I'll be making a trip report to Paris and the Aviation club to play poker. Just wanted to ask anybody that knows the casino what games and limits they offer and how their door-policy is (heard it was difficult to get into). Thanks.

Perhaps I formulated it badly, but besides the facts I also was wondering about people's experience in the casino, especially the poker room. How are the players, are the waiting lists for the low limits big, was is the atmosphere like, etc?



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Hello,
regarding the dress policy, you should avoid any sportswear/jogging/basket/short/Tshirt and so on.
You dont need a tie but close.. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Players at low limits are : gamblers, young-players-from-the-internet, and fishes.

Waiting list can be from half an hour to 2 hours so go early if you dont want to wait (1pm).


I've never been to the ACF but i can certainly advise you not to go to the cercle concorde as mentionned earlier, its very bad.

You can also try another pokerroom close to the ACF (same owner) wich is the Gaillon.

Here is a map i made with all the Pokerrooms in Paris.

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&a...p;z=14&om=1

Enjoy the trip [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Be warned, the smoking in the ACF is crazy. I played a tourney in December there, and stank for the better part of a week.

I didn't play anything other than the tourney, so I can't comment on the play there... But the tourney was a crap-shoot... structure really sucked...

Atmosphere wise, it's a nice place if you don't mind the smoke.

& Paris is great... Eat some cheese for me, ok?

OT

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I'm going to be studying abroad in the Fall at the ESCP-EAP, and living near Avenue de la Republique and Rue Oberkampf. Should I even bother with the closer rooms, or just go to the Aviation Club instead?

I've played at the Aviation Club before, so I know what to expect there. How are the other rooms (I'd be most interested in playing low stakes NL or fixed)?

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You should try Wagram, no dressing code and very laid back with lots of fish. + there is hardly any waiting list, they just open tables as more people come in and usually you'll find a table with a couple spot open.

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You should try Wagram, no dressing code and very laid back with lots of fish. + there is hardly any waiting list, they just open tables as more people come in and usually you'll find a table with a couple spot open.

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There are lot of fishes in all the pokerrooms in Paris [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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I'm going to be studying abroad in the Fall at the ESCP-EAP, and living near Avenue de la Republique and Rue Oberkampf. Should I even bother with the closer rooms, or just go to the Aviation Club instead?

I've played at the Aviation Club before, so I know what to expect there. How are the other rooms (I'd be most interested in playing low stakes NL or fixed)?

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If you stay here a long time tou should definitly try several rooms.
You have a map with all of them in a previous post.

For low-stakes i's say there are the most players at the Concorde & the ACF indeed.

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1-2 NLH goes 24/7, 50 min buy-in & most players buy-in for min. Play this game if you want to laugh your head off or kill time.

2-4 NLH tends to start around 10-11 am and goes til 5-6 am, if not all day. 100 min buy-in but usually plays deeper.

5-5 NLH starts at 2 pm and goes all night. 250 min buy-in, not uncommon to see a few 5K+ stacks, especially after midnight. 20 hourly table charge.

5/10 & 10-20 NLH run on occassion, mostly when there are big tourneys going on. 500 & 1000 min buy-ins, no max. 30 & 40 hourly rake.

All NLH games should be profitable for a 2+2'er. Try not to smirk when some guy bets 300 in to a 50 pot and goes to showdown with 2nd pair.

1-2 and 2-4 PLO go all day. No idea about the standard of play. I think they run 4-8 Limit Omaha also.

Dealers Choice is played all afternoon & evening. I know 5-5 & 5-10 runs regularly not sure about lower limits.

They have a mixture of bigger limit games. DC, Badugi, 2-7 Lowball, limits run from 30-60 (maybe 20-40) up to 400-800.

Tournaments every day at 2 pm and 9 pm. I think the 2 pm tourn is a daily 50 NLH freezeout. Generally bad structures.

Dress code is basically smart shoes, but gets stricter in the evening.

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as said, the aviation club of france is the best place in paris: dealer and floor are serious, can not say the same for the other places....


ambiance is nice: sometimes a little crowded, and a lot of smoke.
big tables (ie NLHE 250+/5/5 or delaer choice ) are in a little room, more quiet and with less smoke.

players r as everywhere, poker players: pro, fishs, internet, gamblers ....

if you play little 2-2 table you will have to face tsome crapy loosy goosy poker, but could be nice [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

u can wait between 0 to 2hours, especialy for 50 or 100 bucks tables.

players there are nice with strangers people...and their money [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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Just a few corrections to previous answers :

as loorent said tables are 2-2 (previously called "la trente" now guess it's "la cinquante" w/ a buy-in 50-200) then 2-4 (100 and +) then 5-5 (250 and +) 5-10 (500 and more)
There is basically NEVER any single PLO game. You'll find a Dealer's Choice game at the 5/5 level but it will usually lead to high variance games like omaha 5 hi-lo and courchevel hi-lo.

If you don't want to play the 2-2 game (which has a pretty high rake as .. well as all ACF tables) or if you like to play PLO - or if you just don't mind playing it indeed, you can try the Gaillon. 5 minutes of walk away from ACF. Same owners so dealers and floor are ok (which is the reason why "Le Concorde" should be absolutely avoided). They have 2-4 and 5-5 games running pretty much all the time with a waiting list usually much shorter, less tables per square meter so smoke will be of smaller inconvenience. Games played are : NL ; PLO and PLO/NL mixed every orbit. Players are if possible even worse at Omaha.

Enjoy.

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players there are nice with strangers people...and their money [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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Predator spotted
http://wileywiggins.blogspot.com/avp.jpg

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Just wanted to say that what everybody said in this thread is pretty much spot on. I played the 2-2 game (which has a ridiculous rake) and the game was full of donkies buying in short and leaving once they busted. It was unreal how high the turnover rate of players was.

Dealers were very good, although the game could be run more professionally. Dealers did not have change except for a rack of two's, which meant players had to either get them from a runner, or what was more common at my table, exchange at another player. It was not uncommon to see the player who received the cash in to pocket the money, effectively 'going south'. Also, string raises, acting out of turn etc. was all allowed and people were able to take their money back. This leads to a nicer atmosphere so I didn't really mind it. Also, the highest denomination money they had when I cashed at the cashier were 20's, which I think is kind of weird and annoying.

As for the dress code. The first thing the bouncer looked at were my shoes, so I figured that was the most important. I had a grey hugo boss hoodie on which I had to take off, but I had a dress shirt with me just in case. Smoke was indeed very, very terrible.

I was very surprised to see how small the club was, especially the casino part. It was basically three small living rooms with various games. But of course I came to play poker and the poker room was pretty big (although not as nicely decorated as the rest).

There was a parking lot with an exit just in front of the casino which cost $3 per hour or $26 for a day, which was nice to have so close.

Thanks for all the information and I will be visiting ACP again soon, as well as some of the other rooms I hope.

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You need your passport!

The food is nothing special.

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You need your passport!

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Actually, a driver's license worked fine. And my friend and I are still horribly ill from the trip from food poisoning (sp?) so I'd say it's a slight bit worse than 'nothing special'.

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Any id piece of paper will do the trick.
And the legal age to play is 18.