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Corpsebean 10-24-2007 04:59 AM

100NL - AQ vs Relatively known tag who CR\'s flop.
 
Villain is 19/14 over like 50 hands, never played with him before, I don't know exact stats on this table but I played 24/20 overall today so I figure he thinks I'm at least somewhat loose.

Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG: $207.20
Hero (CO): $178.65
BTN: $131.65
SB: $41.40
BB: $185.50

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $3.50</font>, BTN calls $3.50, 2 folds

Flop: ($8.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $6</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $20</font>, Hero calls $14

Turn: ($48.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $29</font>, Hero calls $29

River: ($106.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $66</font>, Hero raises to $126.15 and is All-In.


Thoughts? Fold or raise at any point? This was one of those spots I figured I was either completely toasted by a set or crushing him and letting him continue to bluff or put money in thinking he's a favorite was the way to go.

Well played or Self Value-town?

AAmucked 10-24-2007 05:03 AM

Re: 100NL - AQ vs Relatively known tag who CR\'s flop.
 
Why would you ever CR the river? Go with your read with the calldown but never ever ever CR this river, no worse hand ever calls besides maybe KQ

Corpsebean 10-24-2007 05:15 AM

Re: 100NL - AQ vs Relatively known tag who CR\'s flop.
 
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Why would you ever CR the river? Go with your read with the calldown but never ever ever CR this river, no worse hand ever calls besides maybe KQ

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CR'ed the river because he only had like 13 behind and was basically committed to calling with anything except air since he was calling 13 to win like 235?

Also I thought if he had air he may just be a gentleman and grant me the 13 dollars out of the kindness of his heart.

dirtylobster 10-24-2007 05:22 AM

Re: 100NL - AQ vs Relatively known tag who CR\'s flop.
 
Anyone like to b/f turn?

ronitonline 10-24-2007 05:29 AM

Re: 100NL - AQ vs Relatively known tag who CR\'s flop.
 
wtf with the shove?
blocker/small-vb on river is fine.
shoving river is bad imo.

Upgrade_U 10-24-2007 07:10 AM

Re: 100NL - AQ vs Relatively known tag who CR\'s flop.
 
C/R riv is bad, self valuetown 4sh0, just call and scoop it, he isnt calling with worse hands probably

Esection 10-24-2007 07:26 AM

Re: 100NL - AQ vs Relatively known tag who CR\'s flop.
 
river is crazy spew. he's only calling with better hands. also, you are very behind neways.

RolloRolf 10-24-2007 07:43 AM

Re: 100NL - AQ vs Relatively known tag who CR\'s flop.
 
I'm thinking a bet on the turn will help you a lot. You have to think forward, and if you are willing to call a bet on the turn, i think you should have just bet that amount.

A set would then raise you and hands you beat would most likely just call.

Also him not betting all in on the river tells me he really wants a call... I could be wrong

Up-grey-de 10-24-2007 08:09 AM

Re: 100NL - AQ vs Relatively known tag who CR\'s flop.
 
Very hard since he is just betting 66 on river in a 106 pot, but I think I would fold this. Turn and river looks like he wants a call.

I think on the flop he would not raise KQ, heŽd just call. IMO this is a set, 22,44, could even be 10s actually.

Up-grey-de 10-24-2007 08:11 AM

Re: 100NL - AQ vs Relatively known tag who CR\'s flop.
 
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I'm thinking a bet on the turn will help you a lot. You have to think forward, and if you are willing to call a bet on the turn, i think you should have just bet that amount.

A set would then raise you and hands you beat would most likely just call.

Also him not betting all in on the river tells me he really wants a call... I could be wrong

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If you bet turn and he just calls, do we push river or c/c c/f?


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