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Aquadougs 11-18-2007 07:20 PM

NL100: 97s; hits straight on turn IP
 
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Party Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

CO: $109.50
BTN: $125.63
SB: $102
Hero (BB): $96
UTG: $250.87
MP: $193.50

Pre-Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
3 folds, BTN calls $1, SB calls $0.50, Hero checks

Flop: ($3) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $2.50</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7</font>, BTN folds, SB calls $4.50

Turn: ($17) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $12</font>


Is my line correct?

ajmargarine 11-18-2007 07:22 PM

Re: NL100: 97s; hits straight on turn IP
 
Looks good. What are you doing on a 2 turn if SB checks to you?

diskopoker 11-18-2007 07:29 PM

Re: NL100: 97s; hits straight on turn IP
 
spot on...you could be a little more but its fine

Lucky 11-18-2007 07:39 PM

Re: NL100: 97s; hits straight on turn IP
 
raise more on flop, you want him to fold.

chadattak 11-18-2007 07:51 PM

Re: NL100: 97s; hits straight on turn IP
 
The line is correct and like the amount you bet also. Of course you want the pot on the flop and I think raising 3 times his bet is fine.

jordiepop 11-18-2007 08:30 PM

Re: NL100: 97s; hits straight on turn IP
 
i dont think we have much fe here... betting the turn is std

Aquadougs 11-18-2007 09:07 PM

Re: NL100: 97s; hits straight on turn IP
 
Ajmargarine: If the turn is a 2 i think its best to check to get a freecard. Am I right?

Aquadougs 11-18-2007 09:17 PM

Re: NL100: 97s; hits straight on turn IP
 
But when Im doing a bit math, thinks looks a bit different.

Lets say we expect to win about 0,4 times the riverpot (in addition to the existing pot and what he will put in the pot at turn) in the long run if we hit straight, and looses the turnbet if we dont hit. Then he has to fold more often than 9% of the time to make a turnbet profitable.

I think he will fold about 40% of the time and if so, the EV is 5,86.

If we just check and expect 0,2 of the riverpot if we hit, then the EV is 3,71.

If we just check and expect 0,4 of the riverpot if we hit, then the EV is 4,33.

I think its best to bet the turn after this math session.

Is my fold% and hit-river EV numbers to optimistic?

ajmargarine 11-18-2007 09:19 PM

Re: NL100: 97s; hits straight on turn IP
 
[ QUOTE ]
Ajmargarine: If the turn is a 2 i think its best to check to get a freecard. Am I right?

[/ QUOTE ]

Well, you see he folded on a Ten turn. Which means he's probalby folding alot of turns that don't make/improve his hand. What do you put him on?

Aquadougs 11-18-2007 09:19 PM

Re: NL100: 97s; hits straight on turn IP
 
If he folds 30% of the time at turn (and we expect 0,4p at river if we hit), then the EV is 4.


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