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Kimpan 05-30-2007 11:29 AM

T7 hitting straight on river.
 
opponents stats are somewhat tag, 16/11/2
I think I mess this up on the river, no?
Just call his raise?

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $99
UTG+1: $57.19
CO: $46.75
Button: $116.20
Hero: $100
BB: $104.90

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
2 folds, CO calls, Button calls, Hero calls, BB checks.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($4, 4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, CO checks, Button checks.

Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($4, 4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, CO checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets $1</font>, Hero calls, BB calls, CO folds.

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($7, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $4</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $14.5</font>, Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $37</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises all-in $88.4</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero calls all-in $61</font>.
Uncalled bets: $4.9 returned to BB.

Results:
Final pot: $203

fees 05-30-2007 11:31 AM

Re: T7 hitting straight on river.
 
so he had q10.. cooler, it happens

ShowMEyourHAND 05-30-2007 11:36 AM

Re: T7 hitting straight on river.
 
No i would also reraise him giving your value in the longrun when he is overplaying 2 pairs and stuff like that

Panthro 05-30-2007 11:40 AM

Re: T7 hitting straight on river.
 
I'd just call his raise unless he's terrible.

dbthdo 05-30-2007 01:16 PM

Re: T7 hitting straight on river.
 
i'd just call here too..

kongo_totte 05-30-2007 01:20 PM

Re: T7 hitting straight on river.
 
Call river raise looks good, mostly because you're gonna have a v. difficult decision if 4-bet. As you did 3-bet, I'd strongly consider folding to his 4-bet. He has kinda nitty stats, I'd expect to be shown the nuts a v. big % of the time.

Sorcerer808 05-30-2007 02:59 PM

Re: T7 hitting straight on river.
 
I don't understand why you would all just call the raise? his $1 bet on turn doesn't look like QT to me... more like a donk with 88 or J8. He obv doesn't have J8 after he 4bet but I'm still not folding this. Please explain ?

wrkingtobegreat 05-30-2007 04:20 PM

Re: T7 hitting straight on river.
 
*grunch* LOL you did nothing wrong. What kind of player are you if you are afraid to get all your chips in with the second nuts (you are ONLY beat by q10)? This raise could easily mean the river gave him two pair, which is WAY more likely than him having q10. please...

wrkingtobegreat 05-30-2007 04:28 PM

Re: T7 hitting straight on river.
 
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I'd just call his raise unless he's terrible.

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What are you guys thinking? You know, SOMETIMES in poker it is OK to raise without the stone-cold nuts. Our hand can only lose to exactly q10. As long as it is equally likely villain DOESN"T have q10 as that he DOES, this would be an easy reraise (with a 50 percent coinflip and money already in the pot)Fact is it is MORE likely that he doesn't have q10. At least 60 percent. His range could include: 99, 89,A9, slowplayed 88, A4, AJ, and god knows what esle. Am i saying he wont show up alot with q10? absolutely not. But it wont be more than half the time, and thats why you want all your money in this pot.

MLRTS 05-30-2007 04:36 PM

Re: T7 hitting straight on river.
 
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I'd just call his raise unless he's terrible.

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What are you guys thinking? You know, SOMETIMES in poker it is OK to raise without the stone-cold nuts. Our hand can only lose to exactly q10. As long as it is equally likely villain DOESN"T have q10 as that he DOES, this would be an easy reraise (with a 50 percent coinflip and money already in the pot)Fact is it is MORE likely that he doesn't have q10. At least 60 percent. His range could include: 99, 89,A9, slowplayed 88, A4, AJ, and god knows what esle. Am i saying he wont show up alot with q10? absolutely not. But it wont be more than half the time, and thats why you want all your money in this pot.

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I don't see villain having two pair here a lot of the time. 2P and the river play does not compute with those stats. Can't really put him on much except a straight. He would probably raise 88, 99 pf.

Spin it around, what kind of a player bets A9 like this on river? He would have to be extremely stupid and the stats doesnt scream "idiot" to me.

Of course, this all depends on villain. I won't assume him
to be as bad as you seem to think he is.


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