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SuperUberBob 12-01-2007 01:38 PM

*****Official Les Miles Screws Over Michigan By Resigning With LSU****
 
Not really surprised he took the job. It just makes sense. It's hard to win a title in LSU with such a hard schedule. The Big11Ten is super weak and a title from there might be for the taking.

Part of me likes it because I think Miles makes some awkward decisions and gambles too much. The other part of me doesn't like it for that same reason.



UPDATE: lol Michigan

TruFloridaGator 12-01-2007 01:40 PM

Re: Les Miles to Coach Michigan
 
This isn't a sure thing just yet, keep it in the coaches thread.

69sofine 12-01-2007 01:41 PM

Re: Les Miles to Coach Michigan
 
reports coming out that he signed an extension with LSU
http://mgoblog.blogspot.com/index.html

SuperUberBob 12-01-2007 01:44 PM

Re: Les Miles to Coach Michigan
 
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This isn't a sure thing just yet, keep it in the coaches thread.

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EDIT: lol Michigan

Yes it is.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3136391

DVaut1 12-01-2007 01:51 PM

Re: Les Miles to Coach Michigan
 
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This isn't a sure thing just yet, keep it in the coaches thread.

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Yes it is.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3136391

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Not so fast my friend

DVaut1 12-01-2007 01:52 PM

Re: Les Miles to Coach Michigan
 
We should rename this thread "**Official Les Miles pwns Michigan For Saban-Sized Extension From LSU**"

Riverman 12-01-2007 02:03 PM

Re: Les Miles to Coach Michigan
 
WTF is going on? Has there been a press conference or is one officially scheduled?

thedeezy 12-01-2007 02:03 PM

Re: Les Miles to Coach Michigan
 
wtf is happening...


hello brian kelly??

DVaut1 12-01-2007 02:05 PM

Re: Les Miles to Coach Michigan
 
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WTF is going on? Has there been a press conference or is one officially scheduled?

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According to Carty:

"A 1:45 p.m. press conference has been scheduled by LSU prior to today's Southeastern Conference title game between the Tigers and Tennessee to announce the new deal and its terms.

LSU will reportedly make Miles one of the highest-paid coaches in the country."

DVaut1 12-01-2007 02:08 PM

Re: Les Miles to Coach Michigan
 
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3136391

"LSU coach Les Miles will meet with the media at the Georgia Dome before the SEC Championship Game to announce that he is staying at LSU, a source told ESPN.com.

LSU associate athletic director Herb Vincent said Saturday morning that ESPN reports that Miles had accepted the head coaching position at Michigan were "inaccurate." Miles agreed to a contract extension Saturday with LSU."

[censored] Martin or Miles or ESPN for

a) [censored] this up
or
b) falsely reporting the deal was done.

Riverman 12-01-2007 02:08 PM

Re: Les Miles to Coach Michigan
 
OK, but I'm watching ESPN/ABC and there has been no mention of this. Seems strange...I'm not 100% convinced this is a done deal yet.

heater 12-01-2007 02:09 PM

Re: Les Miles to Coach Michigan
 
Yep, ESPN says Miles will meet with the media before the game today to announce he is staying. WTF is going on, lol. I guess it's time for me to start praying for Brian Kelly again, or maybe Tedford.

Riverman 12-01-2007 02:10 PM

Re: Les Miles to Coach Michigan
 
Hmm...I wonder if it was Michigan or LSU, i.e. did Carr keep it from happening or did he turn down the job?

DVaut1 12-01-2007 02:10 PM

Re: Les Miles to Coach Michigan
 
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OK, but I'm watching ESPN/ABC and there has been no mention of this. Seems strange...I'm not 100% convinced this is a done deal yet.

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ESPN website is reporting Miles staying at LSU; ESPN News is reporting Miles is taking the Michigan job. Pretty much ESPN blows. I'm sure the website is 'more up to date' than ESPN News.

DVaut1 12-01-2007 02:13 PM

Re: Les Miles to Coach Michigan
 
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Hmm...I wonder if it was Michigan or LSU, i.e. did Carr keep it from happening or did he turn down the job?

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Or maybe Herbstreit just had a [censored] source.

ikestoys 12-01-2007 02:14 PM

Re: Les Miles to Coach Michigan
 
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This isn't a sure thing just yet, keep it in the coaches thread.

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Yes it is.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3136391

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Not so fast my friend

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espn>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>mlive

DVaut1 12-01-2007 02:22 PM

Re: Les Miles to Coach Michigan
 
lolz @ ESPN

http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/8817/ggespn2jk6.jpg

LurchySoprano 12-01-2007 02:26 PM

Re: Les Miles to Coach Michigan
 
Michigan gets the best end of this deal IMO. Not very impressed by Miles.

Poofler 12-01-2007 02:27 PM

Re: Les Miles to Coach Michigan
 
Yeah get in line on the Miles is overrated bandwagon

DVaut1 12-01-2007 02:28 PM

Re: Les Miles to Coach Michigan
 
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Yeah get in line on the Miles is overrated bandwagon

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He's better than DeBord, which is about what we're left with right now.

C'mon Brian Kelly!

Riverman 12-01-2007 02:34 PM

Re: Les Miles to Coach Michigan
 
If we hire DeBord I will cease to support Michigan.

Honestly I think the whole thing is kind of a crapshoot. When Nebraska hired Callahan it looked like a good hire. When tOSU hired Tressel the general reaction was "Jim WHO?" That said, I think it's pretty clear DeBord would be a disaster.

thedeezy 12-01-2007 02:36 PM

Re: Les Miles to Coach Michigan
 
DeBord couldnt win at Central.

it's going to be Brian Kelly IMO

DVaut1 12-01-2007 02:37 PM

Re: Les Miles to Coach Michigan
 
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If we hire DeBord I will cease to support Michigan.

Honestly I think the whole thing is kind of a crapshoot. When Nebraska hired Callahan it looked like a good hire. When tOSU hired Tressel the general reaction was "Jim WHO?" That said, I think it's pretty clear DeBord would be a disaster.

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Angelique Changelis (Michigan beat writer for Detroit News) was on ESPN News saying that Schiano, Jim Grobe and Gary Pinkel are now the favorites for the job. Says Kelly isn't really on the short list.

TruFloridaGator 12-01-2007 02:47 PM

Re: Les Miles to Coach Michigan
 
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This isn't a sure thing just yet, keep it in the coaches thread.

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Franchise 60 12-01-2007 02:47 PM

Re: Les Miles to Coach Michigan
 
I like Schiano, but he isn't much of a "Michigan Man", so I'm surprised to see him on the short list.

TruFloridaGator 12-01-2007 02:48 PM

Re: Les Miles to Coach Michigan
 
And how did Miles screw over Michigan?

MyTurn2Raise 12-01-2007 02:49 PM

Re: *****Official Les Miles Screws Over Michigan By Resigning With LSU****
 
Michigan would be better off without Les Miles

I've watched quite a bit of Miles... he is no better than Zook at game/clock management

MyTurn2Raise 12-01-2007 02:49 PM

Re: *****Official Les Miles Screws Over Michigan By Resigning With LSU****
 
plus, Miles is a whiny baby and complaining to the press all the time

he should be a blogger

adanthar 12-01-2007 02:53 PM

Re: Les Miles to Coach Michigan
 
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I like Schiano, but he isn't much of a "Michigan Man", so I'm surprised to see him on the short list.

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Schiano would be better than Miles IMO so I am shocked at this.

ikestoys 12-01-2007 02:57 PM

Re: Les Miles to Coach Michigan
 
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I like Schiano, but he isn't much of a "Michigan Man", so I'm surprised to see him on the short list.

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Schiano would be better than Miles IMO so I am shocked at this.

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Being a "Michigan Man" is very, very important in Ann Arbor... more important than credentials really.

Gregatron 12-01-2007 02:58 PM

Re: *****Official Les Miles Screws Over Michigan By Resigning With LSU
 
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UPDATE: lol OP

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MyTurn2Raise 12-01-2007 02:59 PM

Re: Les Miles to Coach Michigan
 
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I like Schiano, but he isn't much of a "Michigan Man", so I'm surprised to see him on the short list.

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Schiano would be better than Miles IMO so I am shocked at this.

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Being a "Michigan Man" is very, very important in Ann Arbor... more important than credentials really.

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obviously...they hired Gary Moeller as head coach FFS


ironically, Bo was a tO$U man

ikestoys 12-01-2007 03:05 PM

Re: Les Miles to Coach Michigan
 
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I like Schiano, but he isn't much of a "Michigan Man", so I'm surprised to see him on the short list.

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Schiano would be better than Miles IMO so I am shocked at this.

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Being a "Michigan Man" is very, very important in Ann Arbor... more important than credentials really.

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obviously...they hired Gary Moeller as head coach FFS


ironically, Bo was a tO$U man

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Bo was hired before it was the rivalry it was today.

Gregatron 12-01-2007 03:11 PM

Re: Les Miles to Coach Michigan
 
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ironically, Bo was a tO$U man

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The great ones redefine themselves by creating new traditions.

Overall:

I like Miles but don't LOVE him. While he is certainly suboptimal in his in game decision making, his batshit insanity makes up for this (he is so aggressive he sometimes makes the correct decision for the wrong reason -- and his apparent randomness in his decisions can simulate game theoretic optimality). However, he has kept the LSU program at a very high level, and it's hard to ask more of a coach than that.

I was won over by Miles after the 2005 season. Louisiana got hit with two hurricanes that year, and it SEVERLY disrupted the team.

I am not jumping on the "Miles sucks" bandwagon. When all factors are considered, he is considerably better than most college coaches IMO.

DVaut1 12-01-2007 03:13 PM

Re: Les Miles to Coach Michigan
 
I still think it's 98% he's staying at LSU, but that press conference was a little ambiguous. If you've seen the video (turn on ESPN News), then picture Miles being very pissed as he says this:

Miles: "There was misinformation on ESPN and I think it's imperative that I straighten it out. I'm the head coach at LSU, I will be the head coach at LSU, I have no interest in talking to anyone else. I have a championship game to play and I'm excited about the opportunity of my damn strong football team to play in it. And that's really all I'd like to say. It's unfortunate I had to address my team with this information this morning. With that being done, I think we'll be ready to play. There will be no questions for me; I represent me in this issue, please ask me after. I'm busy. Thank you very much, and have a great day."

No mention of extension. Chancellor wouldn't take questions.

TomCollins 12-01-2007 03:17 PM

Re: Les Miles to Coach Michigan
 
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I like Schiano, but he isn't much of a "Michigan Man", so I'm surprised to see him on the short list.

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Schiano would be better than Miles IMO so I am shocked at this.

[/ QUOTE ]

Being a "Michigan Man" is very, very important in Ann Arbor... more important than credentials really.

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obviously...they hired Gary Moeller as head coach FFS


ironically, Bo was a tO$U man

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Bo was hired before it was the rivalry it was today.

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It was still pretty damn important when he went there.

MyTurn2Raise 12-01-2007 03:17 PM

Re: Les Miles to Coach Michigan
 
great...so it seems that the entire SEC championship game will be filled with the Les Miles coaching talk....[censored] me

I wish there was a game where they just discussed the game

DVaut1 12-01-2007 03:17 PM

Re: Les Miles to Coach Michigan
 
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And how did Miles screw over Michigan?

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I don't know if it's fair to say he "screwed" over Michigan, but he's dropped hints he loves Michigan and it was his dream job, etc. If he really intended on staying at LSU, then he "screwed" over Michigan by using us as leverage for his big money extension. At least that's what the narrative is.

Gregatron 12-01-2007 03:18 PM

Re: Les Miles to Coach Michigan
 
Skip Bertman (LSU's AD) is claiming that Miles has agreed to a contract extension according to ABC.

Riverman 12-01-2007 03:19 PM

Re: Les Miles to Coach Michigan
 
The press conference was super-weird. He didn't say "I signed an extension," he said "I don't want another job." Big difference.

This guy loves Michigan and the job will not open up again in his coaching lifetime. I'm not 100% convinced he's staying.


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