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Performify 11-21-2007 01:16 PM

*** OFFICIAL 11/25/07 NFL SNF GAME THREAD (PHI @ NE) ***
 
PHI @ NE

coolmoedee 11-21-2007 01:34 PM

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I just can't see how this line can be so high? I know its NE and they cover all the time, but Philly must have enough pride to keep this game under 20? NE-22.5 seems just silly but I guess it is NE.

Rustjive 11-21-2007 01:37 PM

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Big tax.

Also, the 'pride' comment I find pretty funny. You don't think the Bills or the Redskins have 'pride'?

coolmoedee 11-21-2007 02:25 PM

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I didn't know MCnabb might not play, that makes the line more sensible...Take NE as usual.

RikkiDee 11-21-2007 05:58 PM

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before 2007 i've never taken a favorite that was giving more than 14 points almost out of principle. Now I've bet on NE every week but I just can't do it this week. FFS Philly has to keep this game closer than 22 points, umm right?

h_ven 11-22-2007 02:32 PM

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How about a teaser with the over?

Eagles +23/+29
Over 50.5/44.5

There's a red box on this game at bodog so it isn't teasable at the moment, hopefully it goes away.

Schwatt 11-22-2007 03:22 PM

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before 2007 i've never taken a favorite that was giving more than 14 points almost out of principle. Now I've bet on NE every week but I just can't do it this week. FFS Philly has to keep this game closer than 22 points, umm right?

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+1

FastPlaySlow 11-22-2007 03:25 PM

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before 2007 i've never taken a favorite that was giving more than 14 points almost out of principle. Now I've bet on NE every week but I just can't do it this week. FFS Philly has to keep this game closer than 22 points, umm right?

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Tell me why. I'm liking NE, 22 or not. It's like McNabb doesn't have a team to play with.

NE is one of the most dominant teams in a long time, I have full faith they can win by 30.

Thremp 11-22-2007 03:35 PM

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This thread makes me want to jump off a building.

psuasskicker 11-22-2007 11:47 PM

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This thread makes me want to jump off a building.

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Pavement -22.5

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Schwatt 11-23-2007 12:06 AM

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before 2007 i've never taken a favorite that was giving more than 14 points almost out of principle. Now I've bet on NE every week but I just can't do it this week. FFS Philly has to keep this game closer than 22 points, umm right?

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Tell me why. I'm liking NE, 22 or not. It's like McNabb doesn't have a team to play with.

NE is one of the most dominant teams in a long time, I have full faith they can win by 30.

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Mostly because Philly could backdoor cover 21 if Brady comes out early. CIN, CLE, and MIA all covered 21 vs the Pats. Philly is better than CIN and MIA. 2 other games(NYJ and SD) NE won by "only" 24.

If the line was -19, I would be on it.

I am on the over(50) though for 2u. NE is averaging 41 pts per game. Their game O/U has gone over 50 7 out of 10 games this year. The 3 that didn't were 45, 44 and 47.

psuasskicker 11-23-2007 12:02 PM

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CIN, CLE, and MIA all covered 21 vs the Pats.

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The Pats back-door covered against Clev as Clev was down 10 and driving with a minute left...fumble rec for TD screwed everyone that wasn't lucky enough to jump on Clev at 17.

Cinci and Miami were road games.

I like Philly at 24, not less than that. I may take the Pats if the line holds under 23 through Sunday.

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RichGangi 11-23-2007 12:18 PM

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Anyone that bets against NE at ANY line under 30 deserves what they get imo.

CrushinFelt 11-23-2007 01:03 PM

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Anyone that bets against NE at ANY line under 30 deserves what they get imo.

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So if I bet against the Pats and they don't cover, I deserved it? Thanks.

RichGangi 11-23-2007 01:42 PM

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Bet against them and see how that works out for you. Thats all Im saying. I just cant understand how any sane person watching the NFL this year could do it. Good luck though.

CrushinFelt 11-23-2007 02:04 PM

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Bet against them and see how that works out for you. Thats all Im saying.

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lol but what you're really saying is

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I just cant understand how any sane person watching the NFL this year could do it.

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psuasskicker 11-23-2007 02:53 PM

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Anyone that bets against NE at ANY line under 30 deserves what they get imo.

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Pats -24.5 is 3-7 this year, so thanks for the well thought out advice.

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furyshade 11-23-2007 03:26 PM

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the only reason i can imagine betting against pats is that sports books know that everyone jumps on every pats line so if they can put up a line they wont cover they get a huge day

NajdorfDefense 11-23-2007 03:27 PM

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Bet against them and see how that works out for you. Thats all Im saying. I just cant understand how any sane person watching the NFL this year could do it. Good luck though.

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Is it a lock? Are you betting the NWE total?

Oatmeal 11-23-2007 04:16 PM

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At the beginig of the week I took the birds +22; I couldn't see how anyone wouldn't. The line is now +24; with the moneyline at 25 to 1. I'm throwing 1/10u on the birds moneyline, too.

Do the Eagles really have less than a 5% chance of winning? They are both pro teams, right?

kyro 11-23-2007 04:36 PM

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1u on Eagles +24
1u on O51

sethseth 11-23-2007 05:43 PM

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how much is the move from 22 to 24 worth? I can't tell cause pinny doesnt have the buydown thing for it. got pats at 22 and thinking about dumping it.

kyro 11-23-2007 06:55 PM

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It's at 24.5 (-115) on Bodog. Got another unit down on the Eagles.

Nonfiction 11-23-2007 08:42 PM

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It's at 24.5 (-115) on Bodog. Got another unit down on the Eagles.

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Finally got money on another site? Yay!

Thremp 11-23-2007 08:44 PM

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I now completely understand when Trix tells me he reads 2p2 to find out what the squares are on [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

NajdorfDefense 11-24-2007 12:29 AM

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2u NWE -14/-110 1stH

kyro 11-24-2007 12:34 AM

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It's at 24.5 (-115) on Bodog. Got another unit down on the Eagles.

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Finally got money on another site? Yay!

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This money has been on here forever. I just recently found it. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

kyro 11-24-2007 12:37 AM

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I have a question for the math experts.

Let's say there are two games. Game A has a true line of -3. Game B has a line of -23.

Is the move from +3 to +9 the same as the move from +23 to +29? It seems to me that the move in Game A would be larger.

Rustjive 11-24-2007 12:49 AM

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Is the move from +3 to +9 the same as the move from +23 to +29? It seems to me that the move in Game A would be larger.

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You are right.

sethseth 11-24-2007 12:50 AM

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how much is the move from 22 to 24 worth?

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I figured out from the matchbook lines the difference is about 18 cents.

kyro 11-24-2007 01:06 AM

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Is the move from +3 to +9 the same as the move from +23 to +29? It seems to me that the move in Game A would be larger.

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You are right.

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So theoretically, teasing from +23 to +29 is just an awful idea, correct?

NajdorfDefense 11-24-2007 01:31 AM

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about as bad as it gets, yep

Lottery Larry 11-24-2007 10:24 AM

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Do the Eagles really have less than a 5% chance of winning? They are both pro teams, right?

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NE is going to shut down Westbrook and dare the passing game to beat them.

For those who posted about Brady coming out early.... only if they have another half bigger than last week's. If we assume the Unabomber is getting revenge on every team that dissed him.... how about the team that suggested they should have won the SB if NE hadn't videocheated?

prodonkey 11-24-2007 02:15 PM

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I agree here.. NE will have someone on Westbrook like white on rice every play. I have him on my fantasy team and am considering sitting him. If I could get -14 first half I'd pound that.. bodog has it at -16 right now.

RichGangi 11-24-2007 05:57 PM

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Obv. nothings a lock, Im just amazed that ppl still dont/cant believe how dominant of a team we're looking at here. Are you saying betting against them is +ev at this point? Lolz.

Thremp 11-24-2007 05:59 PM

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Obv. nothings a lock, Im just amazed that ppl still dont/cant believe how dominant of a team we're looking at here. Are you saying betting against them is +ev at this point? Lolz.

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Its probably some of the most obv plays. What planet are you on? Stop posting. Go away.

RichGangi 11-24-2007 06:01 PM

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Im sorry, I must be missing something. Why am I getting flamed again?

furyshade 11-24-2007 06:05 PM

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Im sorry, I must be missing something. Why am I getting flamed again?

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because you made a post justifying a bet based on "they are really good" even though there is clear evidence on both sides of the argument. no one is asking if they will win, they are asking if they will win by 3 touchdowns and a field goal

RichGangi 11-24-2007 06:13 PM

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Oic. Let me ask a question then: What makes everyone think NE wont win by 3tds and a fg?

furyshade 11-24-2007 06:16 PM

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Oic. Let me ask a question then: What makes everyone think NE wont win by 3tds and a fg?

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Anyone that bets against NE at ANY line under 30 deserves what they get imo.

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Pats -24.5 is 3-7 this year, so thanks for the well thought out advice.

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