400nl - Good Bluff?
 

Yo I be doing this silly frequently with a huge [censored] range is this legit or whack?

POKERSTARS GAME #13423929729: HOLD'EM POT LIMIT ($2/$4) - 2007/11/23 - 17:49:05 (ET)
Table 'Lupus II' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: DirtyMccurdy ($320.50 in chips)
Seat 2: Marccus85 ($623.20 in chips)
Seat 3: too eazy ($400 in chips)
Seat 4: kakasjancsi ($256.80 in chips)
Seat 5: abbadoo2 ($302.95 in chips)
Seat 6: SQUi5HiiF1SH ($400 in chips)
Seat 7: sultan1111 ($294 in chips)
Seat 8: wobbly_au ($551.10 in chips)
Seat 9: 5iveofaKind ($441 in chips)
Marccus85: posts small blind $2
too eazy: posts big blind $4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to too eazy [Tc 8h]
kakasjancsi: folds
abbadoo2: folds
SQUi5HiiF1SH: calls $4
sultan1111: folds
wobbly_au: folds
5iveofaKind: folds
DirtyMccurdy: folds
Marccus85: folds
too eazy: raises $10 to $14
SQUi5HiiF1SH: calls $10
*** FLOP *** [5d Qc 2s]
too eazy: bets $20
SQUi5HiiF1SH: calls $20
*** TURN *** [5d Qc 2s] [Qh]
too eazy: bets $44
SQUi5HiiF1SH: calls $44
*** RIVER *** [5d Qc 2s Qh] [5s]
too eazy: checks
SQUi5HiiF1SH: bets $50
too eazy: raises $255 to $305

Re: 400nl - Good Bluff?
 

yo. dats whack. looks too much like he be callin yo down wit a Q

Re: 400nl - Good Bluff?
 

yo mothafuckas be limpin q's on the regular? [censored] is a nitty reg

Re: 400nl - Good Bluff?
 

i reallly really hate your raise pre. And if u are gonna make it i'd raise it to like 20


i would just bet the river if i were gonna bluff. I think the river check sucks if its with the intention of raising (i.e. if you checked BECAUSE U WANTED him to bet SO u could raise), because i think he checks behind with like his whole range.

That obviously said, honestly i don't think he bets this river without a Q/5/bluff, which means your raise is a straight up math problem as to his frequency to bet tiny on the river as a bluff, because i think it silly to assume that he folds a five.

So what does he bluff? What possible hands can he bluff here? I think if he calls the turn with a small pair like 88, then its because he thinks he's good, so he's gonna take a showdown when you check the river. Honestly unless he's high level enough to turn a decent hand into a bluff here (you gave no reads so i would assume not), i'd guess that he pretty much always has a Q or a 5 when he bets.

So since you are basically trying to get him to fold a bluff, which not just c/r to 155 or something?

cliffnotes, bet flop c/f turn or bet bet bet are your two options imo, and your river check sucks unless you are giving up, because you can't expect him to ever bet here really, and as played your raise sucks as well imo.

Re: 400nl - Good Bluff?
 

i dont see him making that bet without a hand thats gonna call this, he even did you the service of giving you enough room to cr like you did. id rather cr the turn. or fold preflop =)

Re: 400nl - Good Bluff?
 

he has a Q here way too often, if he is as nitty as you say he wouldnt bet the river with some low pp which one might put him on, probably chekcs it thinking its goot

not goot bluff IMO

I would raise to 20/24 preflop btw

Re: 400nl - Good Bluff?
 

as always, excellent renton. what is this guy bluffing here? i suppose he is betting a total bluff, and that's about it here. he definately is checking through any of his hands that have show down value.

Re: 400nl - Good Bluff?
 

betting river>>>>> c/r river

Re: 400nl - Good Bluff?
 

Not against squishiifish
he plays loose passive PF and flop
But on turn/river he plays straightforward

I have no idea what the point of "punishing limpers" is, especially when you'll be OOP in a raised pot with a possibly marginal holding for the rest of the hand.

Re: 400nl - Good Bluff?
 

Is this thread a level?