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synbad13 07-05-2007 06:30 PM

88 in sb. Stick around on the turn?
 
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Preflop: Hero is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. MP posts a blind of $1.
UTG checks, MP (poster) calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, MP calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, UTG calls, MP calls.

Turn: (6.25 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, MP calls, Hero ?

This was early in the session, so at the time I didn't have any notes or reads.

The PF raise is pretty standard I think... but maybe it deserves a comment.
My main question is with a str8 and flush draw on board... do I ever stay around here (what if read on the raiser was someone loose and aggressive?)?

jba 07-05-2007 06:37 PM

Re: 88 in sb. Stick around on the turn?
 
i think you should give up one street earlier.

milesdyson 07-05-2007 06:38 PM

Re: 88 in sb. Stick around on the turn?
 
i dont raise this preflop and i wouldnt bet the flop as played.

mute 07-05-2007 06:45 PM

Re: 88 in sb. Stick around on the turn?
 
Converter screwed something up, I think. Was there two poster, or 1 caller and 1 poster or none of the above? Against 3 opponents I think you can give up on the flop. Turn is a really easy fold.

razyn_kayn 07-06-2007 08:58 PM

Re: 88 in sb. Stick around on the turn?
 
I think you're better off calling preflop here. As played, if you're going to bet this flop....you have to do so planning to c/f the turn unimproved if you get calls.

Oink 07-06-2007 10:19 PM

Re: 88 in sb. Stick around on the turn?
 
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i dont raise this preflop and i wouldnt bet the flop as played.

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Do you ever raise out of the blinds?

I raise this one without thinking. I want to fold BB if I can and push a marginal eq edge. I dont quite understand the preflop action but someone is posting a blind so the eq edge is even bigger.

milesdyson 07-07-2007 06:25 PM

Re: 88 in sb. Stick around on the turn?
 
seems like there were two posters. i'd raise QJs and 99 in this spot. not a big deal with 88 i just don't do it.

ILOVEPOKER929 07-07-2007 07:05 PM

Re: 88 in sb. Stick around on the turn?
 
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seems like there were two posters. i'd raise QJs and 99 in this spot. not a big deal with 88 i just don't do it.

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Yeah I think preflop and flop are close/debatable. I check/fold the turn also. I realize I added nothing to this thread but thats ok.

mvoss 07-07-2007 08:32 PM

Re: 88 in sb. Stick around on the turn?
 
Preflop and flop are probably close. Turn is a c/f imo.


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