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ZJ123 02-02-2007 05:45 PM

blind v. blind, 22$ 180
 
i was kinda lost on the river, anyways no read on the villian, early in a 180.

PokerStars Game #8246118440: Tournament #42056528, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2007/02/02 - 16:26:26 (ET)
Table '42056528 9' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: splitaces (2230 in chips)
Seat 2: Twizz76 (1440 in chips)
Seat 3: Student36 (1440 in chips)
Seat 4: Acool-chickA (1660 in chips)
Seat 5: charder30 (1440 in chips)
Seat 6: Bob E Do (1110 in chips)
Seat 7: docgamma (2090 in chips)
Seat 8: BradleyMac (1220 in chips)
Seat 9: stef1973 (870 in chips)
charder30: posts small blind 15
Bob E Do: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to charder30 [7d 7h]
docgamma: folds
BradleyMac: folds
stef1973: folds
splitaces: folds
Twizz76: folds
Student36: folds
Acool-chickA: folds
charder30: calls 15
Bob E Do: raises 60 to 90
charder30: calls 60
*** FLOP *** [Ah Th 5d]
charder30: checks
Bob E Do: checks
*** TURN *** [Ah Th 5d] [7c]
charder30: bets 90
Bob E Do: calls 90
*** RIVER *** [Ah Th 5d 7c] [2h]
charder30: bets 180
Bob E Do: raises 750 to 930 and is all-in
charder30: ..........

Bob Loblaw 02-02-2007 06:01 PM

Re: blind v. blind, 22$ 180
 
against an unknown you definitely have to call. if you know the guy real well i could see how it could possibly be a fold; but even then... probably not.

RichC. 02-02-2007 06:05 PM

Re: blind v. blind, 22$ 180
 
bet the flop, bet the turn. makes calling the river a bit easier.

ZJ123 02-02-2007 06:07 PM

Re: blind v. blind, 22$ 180
 
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bet the flop, bet the turn. makes calling the river a bit easier.

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why would i want to bet the flop?

Bob Loblaw 02-02-2007 06:08 PM

Re: blind v. blind, 22$ 180
 
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bet the flop, bet the turn. makes calling the river a bit easier.

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bet the flop? with his preflop line? limp-calling and then leading at the ace high flop doesnt sound like a good idea to me.

but i think limp-calling there sucks, raise pf (or even lrr)

shaundeeb 02-02-2007 06:32 PM

Re: blind v. blind, 22$ 180
 
wow you played 1 street correctly, limp calling is awful make it 3x you should be doing that with 80% of your hands in the SB. Flop c/f is fine when he checks behind I get confused/worrried. Turn you need to bet more there are a lot of awful river cards. Against an unknown this is a fold hard to fold sets but A10 is the only non bluff that you beat and I am pretty sure if he checked behind with a set/2pair on flop he would raise the turn. He has the flush 80% of the time here AA 10% fluff 8% other stuff 2%

ZJ123 02-02-2007 06:37 PM

Re: blind v. blind, 22$ 180
 
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wow you played 1 street correctly, limp calling is awful make it 3x you should be doing that with 80% of your hands in the SB. Flop c/f is fine when he checks behind I get confused/worrried. Turn you need to bet more there are a lot of awful river cards. Against an unknown this is a fold hard to fold sets but A10 is the only non bluff that you beat and I am pretty sure if he checked behind with a set/2pair on flop he would raise the turn. He has the flush 80% of the time here AA 10% fluff 8% other stuff 2%

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Wouldn't he bet flop with flush draw?

Fiksdal 02-02-2007 06:40 PM

Re: blind v. blind, 22$ 180
 
A lot of villains take a free card in position when offered with their draws.

shaundeeb 02-02-2007 06:45 PM

Re: blind v. blind, 22$ 180
 
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wow you played 1 street correctly, limp calling is awful make it 3x you should be doing that with 80% of your hands in the SB. Flop c/f is fine when he checks behind I get confused/worrried. Turn you need to bet more there are a lot of awful river cards. Against an unknown this is a fold hard to fold sets but A10 is the only non bluff that you beat and I am pretty sure if he checked behind with a set/2pair on flop he would raise the turn. He has the flush 80% of the time here AA 10% fluff 8% other stuff 2%

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Wouldn't he bet flop with flush draw?

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not all players bet when any 2+2er should. I know a few regulars who are decent players but check behind with their KJh every time here.

mikeJ 02-02-2007 07:03 PM

Re: blind v. blind, 22$ 180
 
I think a fold is correct.


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