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sh58 11-10-2007 01:07 PM

when to fold...
 
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (5 handed) Party Poker Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">BB ($582.55)</font>
UTG ($481.16)
MP ($194.50)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($223)</font>
SB ($198)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $13</font>, Hero calls $6.

Flop: ($29) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $20</font>, Hero calls $20.

Turn: ($69) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $80</font>, Hero calls $80.

River: ($229) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)[/co]

villain is 36/7/1.3 over 200 hands

hasn't done too much, but got a bit crazy with A8 on a 765 board and managed to hold up when he spiked an 8 on the R against someone's bluff.

i always get sucked into calling 1 bet more in these situations which is a major leak.

i have to call the min3bet PF don't i?

then i feel that i beat a fair amount of hands he could be Cbetting with on the flop such as AK and JJ-TT.

i would have folded the turn except his bet was so big i thought he might be bluffing.

how would you play the hand?

i leave out the river action, but obviously i am not calling a river bet, i just don't want you to know if i found out his hand, otherwise you might think my thread is biased and that he had AA or w/e

Unknown Soldier 11-10-2007 01:09 PM

Re: when to fold...
 
pf, turn

nvm, missed his raise size, pf is fine

spivey 11-10-2007 01:10 PM

Re: when to fold...
 
Definitely turn. Maybe PF, but I can call there too.

DirteAA 11-10-2007 01:19 PM

Re: when to fold...
 
I'm probably folding the turn. His preflop raise of 7 gives him a narrow 3-betting range and players with those stats always make min 3-bets with big hands. He isn't very aggro so I don't think you can assume he'd double barrel with a hand you beat.

djshawk 11-10-2007 01:35 PM

Re: when to fold...
 
I'm always calling preflop, flop I'd normally call. Like you on the turn I'd think he's bluffing but probably fold anyway.

I don't think his pfr of 7 matters much here, if you've been stealing he's probably fed up and is making a stand. I often see mid-high pps here 88-JJ.


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