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scorer 06-27-2007 06:20 AM

Re: Person to person transfers.
 
yeah i spoke to metsmaniac as he pm'd me asking me about doccjr if i ever did a trade with as he listed me as a reference. I don't do transfers..i have only done 2 ever..one was with a scammer and thanks to full tilt i got my money back. Im livid that somebody would mention anybody as a refeence when they have never ever done a trade with them. Point is, check references via pm or aim to see if it in fact they have done a trade with so and so. Some poster doccjr tells metsmaniac that he did a trade with a scorer or score some time ago...dude i have no idea who the heck you are..doccjr...good luck metsmaniac and keep us updated in this thread of your outcome.

Mike Haven 06-27-2007 08:03 AM

Re: Person to person transfers.
 
d0nkaments = JackFaust11

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Edit: I've unbanned d0nkaments after PM correspondence as it appears there were some misunderstandings of events.

Mike Haven 06-27-2007 08:06 AM

Re: Person to person transfers.
 
You can post the details of the alleged scam, the Twoplustwo posting-name and the two sites' playing-names. No real life info.

scorer 06-27-2007 09:10 AM

Re: Person to person transfers.
 
interesting tidbit here, poster docccjr is alleged to not have completed transfer..he also posted that the guy who scammed me vegas_vip tried to scam him..im thinking that vegas_vip=docccjr

pokersox112 06-27-2007 10:43 AM

Re: Person to person transfers.
 
No one is interested in a piece of my $160,000?
I'll send first.

ALLEN BOND 06-27-2007 12:40 PM

Re: Person to person transfers.
 
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No one is interested in a piece of my $160,000?
I'll send first.

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Make it $320,000 and you got a taker.

pokersox112 06-27-2007 12:43 PM

Re: Person to person transfers.
 
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No one is interested in a piece of my $160,000?
I'll send first.

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Make it $320,000 and you got a taker.

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I'm pretty sure you're kidding, but I'm serious and would have figured people would jump at the idea of free money. Obviously, I will not transfer it all at once.
Anyone?

cardman 06-27-2007 01:14 PM

Re: Person to person transfers.
 
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No one is interested in a piece of my $160,000?
I'll send first.

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Make it $320,000 and you got a taker.

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I'm pretty sure you're kidding, but I'm serious and would have figured people would jump at the idea of free money. Obviously, I will not transfer it all at once.
Anyone?

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Post a screenshot of your Party account and funds. This won't be 100% proof because image files can be edited but it's better than nothing.

pkrblog 06-27-2007 01:37 PM

Re: Person to person transfers.
 
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No one is interested in a piece of my $160,000?
I'll send first.

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Make it $320,000 and you got a taker.

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I'm pretty sure you're kidding, but I'm serious and would have figured people would jump at the idea of free money. Obviously, I will not transfer it all at once.
Anyone?

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Post a screenshot of your Party account and funds. This won't be 100% proof because image files can be edited but it's better than nothing.

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If he is sending first what diff does it make?

metsmaniac823 06-27-2007 01:44 PM

Re: Person to person transfers.
 
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interesting tidbit here, poster docccjr is alleged to not have completed transfer..he also posted that the guy who scammed me vegas_vip tried to scam him..im thinking that vegas_vip=docccjr

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I have no proof of this. That being said, I wouldn't be surprised.

I'm in the process of e-mailing Absolute Poker and Pokerstars. The 2+2 user is "docccjr", though I very much doubt he will ever log in again anyway. He claimed to have a reference, scorer, that I failed to check ahead of time (lesson #1 for everyone out there). The proposed transaction was I send him $210 on AP, he sends me $200 on Stars. I sent him his money, he never sent it back. I have proof of the transfer and the PMs that we exchanged. Right now, I'm not going to include any more specific details until I hear back from Absolute Poker.

cardman 06-27-2007 02:00 PM

Re: Person to person transfers.
 
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If he is sending first what diff does it make?

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Because when I saw his first post in this thread requesting a $160,000 transfer I thought it was a joke post.

Even with an image screenshot, I'd be very wary about him but at least people would be less likely to think it's a joke post. Still wouldn't prove he's trustworthy but at this stage, nobody is taking his post seriously. Even with an image screenshot, it would still be too suspicious sounding. But maybe people would be curious enough to ask more questions.

It just sounds shady...

BradleyT 06-27-2007 02:24 PM

Re: Person to person transfers.
 
I didn't follow the old huge thread because I never really had any need to transfer so this might have been covered somewhere within the 30 pages of posts.

Anyway, how safe are the funds you receive? Is it possible that someone can load up $500 in fraudulent funds on a site and then transfer to you and you're on the hook for that money? Any safeguards we can take to prevent this? We see those posts in the Zoo stating, "LOL I deposited $2,000 in bad funds on stars - should I pay them back?" but those usually end with the person losing all the money rather than trying to "launder" it to a new site. It all just seems risky to me. Am I paranoid or can we receive "bad funds"?

pkrblog 06-27-2007 02:46 PM

Re: Person to person transfers.
 
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I didn't follow the old huge thread because I never really had any need to transfer so this might have been covered somewhere within the 30 pages of posts.

Anyway, how safe are the funds you receive? Is it possible that someone can load up $500 in fraudulent funds on a site and then transfer to you and you're on the hook for that money? Any safeguards we can take to prevent this? We see those posts in the Zoo stating, "LOL I deposited $2,000 in bad funds on stars - should I pay them back?" but those usually end with the person losing all the money rather than trying to "launder" it to a new site. It all just seems risky to me. Am I paranoid or can we receive "bad funds"?

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I would assume it is most certainly possible to be the recipient of fraudulent funds. People could deposit with a fraudulent cc and then transfer to you. FTP seems to prevent this. Stars is another story alltogether.

LetsGetItOn 06-27-2007 03:35 PM

Re: Person to person transfers.
 
Did a successful transfer with user "squashington".

Mike Haven 06-27-2007 04:06 PM

Re: Person to person transfers.
 
I very much doubt if the sites would let someone deposit and then transfer funds without having played a reasonable amount in relation to the deposit. That would make the transaction look too much like the site was being used as a banking vehicle, and they don't like that.

Mike Haven 06-27-2007 06:45 PM

Re: Person to person transfers.
 
Every time someone alleges they are scammed I will copy-paste this post and add the new alleged scammer's name, (as long as it appears to be a genuine and non-malicious allegation). So far, we have alleged scammers:

ace_acehigh on UB

alan227 on Stars

annathedonk on Stars

docccjr

HateToFold33 on FTP

JamesBond_AA on Prima, Stars and FTP

limitninja = limitninja on Stars and FTP = limitninja15 on Absolute

Low_Card2

p0kerpl4yer2007 on FTP

pokerplayer4352 on FTP

pushdonkey on Absolute

Randy Hickey on Stars

Rick305

Sk00l4m3nts

strongbad311 on Stars

Thebigyak

TiltHappens on UB

wsucoug2010 on FTP and Stars

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Note: I have removed pkrblog = floppynuts = joshman on Stars from the list as he has traded properly and no actual scam allegations have been made against him. This is the last time this Note will be included.

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(Please pm me with the playing names of alleged scammers, so that I can add them to the record. Thanks.)

Please read all earlier warnings. Either we ban all mentions of transfers, period, or you must accept that they are entirely at your own risk; people are trying to scam you; you should obtain real life details, (name, address, phone number), about people in order to inform the police if you are scammed; exchange full details of the proposed transfer by e-mail; you should only transfer in amounts you are prepared to lose; google and Search the other person's name; ask here for references; it seems likely but not definite that most scammers are newer posters; if the other guy won't transfer first, transfer in a number of small amounts; ask the other guy to sit at a table with his bankroll in front of him; etc; etc.

If you are in any doubt, or unwilling to risk losing the amount of money involved, don't offer to transfer first. Realise that you are likely to be scammed if you do.

"Let the buyer beware."

michaelantoi 06-27-2007 09:21 PM

Re: Person to person transfers.
 
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I need $880 off Party onto FTP.

Will pay extra if you send first. Reputable posters I will send first. If you are asking for vig then dont bother.

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augie_ 06-27-2007 10:35 PM

Re: Person to person transfers.
 
have ftp. need stars. will pay a vig for large transfer with someone i trust.

schmirob 06-28-2007 12:34 AM

Re: Person to person transfers. *DELETED*
 
Post deleted by Mike Haven

pkrblog 06-28-2007 01:25 AM

Re: Person to person transfers.
 
$325 of my tilt for $300 of your stars. You send first, 3 references. Will provide phone number and name if asked.

PM if interested.

Weever22 06-28-2007 02:23 AM

Re: Person to person transfers.
 
looking for 600-1200$ mine on UB for yours on FTP. You send first, have samh133 (high stakes player) as a reference. Also can trade phone number etc if needed.
PM if interested.

pokersox112 06-28-2007 09:45 AM

Re: Person to person transfers.
 
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If he is sending first what diff does it make?

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Because when I saw his first post in this thread requesting a $160,000 transfer I thought it was a joke post.

Even with an image screenshot, I'd be very wary about him but at least people would be less likely to think it's a joke post. Still wouldn't prove he's trustworthy but at this stage, nobody is taking his post seriously. Even with an image screenshot, it would still be too suspicious sounding. But maybe people would be curious enough to ask more questions.

It just sounds shady...

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OK, it sounds shady, it's a lot of money. But I am willing to send first, that should be the end of it.
I played $5000NL on Party before they stopped allowing Americans. My SN was TheSchlauch, maybe some high rollers remember me.
Not sure how to put a picture on, but again, who cares. I'm sending first and it's not proof of my account balance anyway.

michaelantoi 06-28-2007 10:28 AM

Re: Person to person transfers.
 
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I need $880 off Party onto FTP.

Will pay extra if you send first. Reputable posters I will send first. If you are asking for vig then dont bother.

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TheScientist 06-28-2007 01:06 PM

Re: Person to person transfers.
 
I'd like to get some money onto Prima, I have readily available money on Absolute. Could get money on Stars or Full Tilt to trade also (but would prob have to do some cover play first). Will pay vig of 5%. Max $400 transfer, in smaller increments.

WiSeIVIaN 06-28-2007 01:19 PM

Re: Person to person transfers.
 
Anyone willing to give me $200 on stars for $210 or cakepoker. Kinda wanna play in one of those cool tourny things but my stupid epassporte withdrawl from cake is still pending. No one post wonders that just want to rip me off please. Would be much appreciated.

_JoeJimJoe 06-28-2007 01:30 PM

Re: Person to person transfers.
 
Anyone want to do an in person transfer for 5k in la (i have FTP need cash) pm me.

_JoeJimJoe 06-28-2007 04:33 PM

Re: Person to person transfers.
 
successful 10k swap with Admo

pkrblog 06-28-2007 11:51 PM

Re: Person to person transfers.
 
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$325 of my tilt for $300 of your stars. You send first, 3 references. Will provide phone number and name if asked.

PM if interested.

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michaelantoi 06-28-2007 11:57 PM

Re: Person to person transfers.
 
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I need $880 off Party onto FTP.

Will pay extra if you send first. Reputable posters I will send first. If you are asking for vig then dont bother.

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Admo 06-28-2007 11:58 PM

Re: Person to person transfers.
 
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successful 10k swap with Admo

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For the search engine: successful 10k swap with _JoeJimJoe

Mike Haven 06-29-2007 12:05 AM

Re: Person to person transfers.
 
Can anyone confirm if they have had a good trade with d0nkaments, please? Thanks.

tommo 06-29-2007 12:28 PM

Re: Person to person transfers. *DELETED*
 
have ftp need world poker exchange. will pay 4% vig and want $2000

Can anybody help me out?

Scott Angel 06-29-2007 03:04 PM

Re: Person to person transfers. *DELETED*
 
Still ned 50 on stars for 60 in your paypal willing to senf 1st.

ALLEN BOND 06-29-2007 04:33 PM

Re: Person to person transfers. *DELETED*
 
Ok everyone,

Yes, I have had one successful $20 transfer with "d0nkaments".

sorry for confusion

Svarog 06-29-2007 05:22 PM

Re: Person to person transfers. *DELETED*
 
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have ftp need world poker exchange. will pay 4% vig and want $2000

Can anybody help me out?

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WPX doesn't allow transfers between players.

michaelantoi 06-29-2007 07:46 PM

Re: Person to person transfers.
 
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I need $880 off Party onto FTP.

Will pay extra if you send first. Reputable posters I will send first. If you are asking for vig then dont bother.

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Oliver Nipples 06-29-2007 08:01 PM

Re: Person to person transfers.
 
Need $215 from Stars to UB before Sunday. I send first to high post count users with a year here plus references within one of the two transfer threads.

shdw01 06-29-2007 10:34 PM

Re: Person to person transfers.
 
Okay, how does this work? Never used 2+2 for transfers....if I have FTP and want stars what do I have to do?

mbillie1 06-29-2007 10:36 PM

Re: Person to person transfers.
 
post how much you want xferred? if you're paying a vig (a fee for the transfer) i can transfer it for you. you send on ftp, i send back on stars... it's up to you though, since i have no references on here yet for xfers (eg i'm willing to do this only if there's a xfer fee i'm getting, so i can play donkngos lol)

pkrblog 06-29-2007 10:47 PM

Re: Person to person transfers.
 
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post how much you want xferred? if you're paying a vig (a fee for the transfer) i can transfer it for you. you send on ftp, i send back on stars... it's up to you though, since i have no references on here yet for xfers (eg i'm willing to do this only if there's a xfer fee i'm getting, so i can play donkngos lol)

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No one will send first AND pay you a vig. You get one or the other bub.


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