$115 NLTRN-I never get value with these hands!
 

This guy is not a great player, but i've shown aggression in these spots agaisnt him before and he folded. How can I get more value from such a hand? Do i lead flop? turn? should i check river? I was trying to slowplay. How to play this hand well?


SB: 1,350
Hero (BB): 1,650

Pre-Flop: (45) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
<font color="red">SB raises to 90</font>, Hero calls 60

Flop: (180) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, SB checks

Turn: (180) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">SB bets 180</font>, Hero calls 180

River: (540) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets 300</font>, SB folds

Results: 540 Pot
Hero mucked 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and WON 540 (+270 NET)

P.S. Plz dont discuss preflop, i know its marginal at best.

Indy

Re: $115 NLTRN-I never get value with these hands!
 

Your call pre-flop is fine if he gives you the necessary odds to draw to your flush post-flop .

You may have made a smaller river bet , but I cannot question your play since I have no knowledge of this player .

Re: $115 NLTRN-I never get value with these hands!
 

Why you didn't bet the turn? Were you afraid of being raised? I would do it against most players (but I suck in SNG's). Is c/c turn your default play or just against that opponent?

Re: $115 NLTRN-I never get value with these hands!
 

Hard to get paid off on that river vs this kind of guy.

Might want to consider betting the turn because it'll look bluffy, that way you can extract more hero calls with this kind of guy, otherwise he's not going to do it until he decides "he can't always have it" and you can't do much to make him change the way he plays.

Re: $115 NLTRN-I never get value with these hands!
 

Why not build the pot with a bet on the flop? You have a nice combo draw/pair, but your hand is not invulnerable and it's conceivable that you were behind at some point in this hand post flop, so I don't really agree that this is a slow play spot.

Re: $115 NLTRN-I never get value with these hands!
 

Indy was c/raising the flop NSM. You must bet the turn and river I would bet more like 250-275 range.

Re: $115 NLTRN-I never get value with these hands!
 

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Indy was c/raising the flop NSM. You must bet the turn and river I would bet more like 250-275 range.

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so the key is to bet the turn? I was so afraid to get pushed off my beautiful hand if i bet turn and he raised.

Indy

Re: $115 NLTRN-I never get value with these hands!
 

You're right, I wasn't factoring in what likely would/should have been a CB.

Re: $115 NLTRN-I never get value with these hands!
 

I agree with b/t, b/r, what about attempting c/r on river?

I don't like it really, but if the hand played out this way, it is probably the best way to play the river.

I don't understand how pf is marginal, but okay.

Re: $115 NLTRN-I never get value with these hands!
 

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Indy was c/raising the flop NSM. You must bet the turn and river I would bet more like 250-275 range.

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so the key is to bet the turn? I was so afraid to get pushed off my beautiful hand if i bet turn and he raised.

Indy

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Did you have any history with that guy so that you were afraid of that?