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Chargers In 07 11-03-2007 12:13 AM

$50 Q8 makes 2p from BB
 
Villain is around 45/5. Not sure what to do on this river. Comments on turn are also welcome.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG+1 ($14.45)
MP1 ($9.65)
MP2 ($54.70)
CO ($44.85)
Button ($26.85)
SB ($95.35)
Hero ($60.20)
UTG ($74)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero checks.

Flop: ($1.75) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.5</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP2 calls $1.50.

Turn: ($4.75) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, MP2 calls $3.

River: ($10.75) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero

jlp_2908 11-03-2007 12:57 AM

Re: $50 Q8 makes 2p from BB
 
Id check-call

SABR42 11-03-2007 01:10 AM

Re: $50 Q8 makes 2p from BB
 
Don't check/call against passive stations. Value bet for half-pot.

The Eureka Kid 11-03-2007 01:26 AM

Re: $50 Q8 makes 2p from BB
 
Bet/fold

toymach776 11-03-2007 12:42 PM

Re: $50 Q8 makes 2p from BB
 
[ QUOTE ]
Id check-call

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Villain appears very loose passive from stats. Bet/fold is much more +EV here than c/c'ing and IMO c/c is -EV. Villain appears showdown bound here and bet/fold gets value for our hand here (I'd 1/2 PSB), and if we are raised we can probably find a fold. Given villains passiveness, we are taking the worst of it by check calling because he is rarely bluffing river or betting a hand that we beat.

Albert Moulton 11-03-2007 02:13 PM

Re: $50 Q8 makes 2p from BB
 
Bet/fold.

He'll call with some worse hands, but he probably won't raise with worse hands. You don't want to induce a big bluff with a check since you end up calling too much when he actually has a better hand, and he'll check behind too much with hands he might have called a river bet with. So, set your own price instead of letting him set one with bet/fold, probably $6 or so.

speedle 11-03-2007 02:14 PM

Re: $50 Q8 makes 2p from BB
 
Hero bets $6


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