Weird river spot bottom boat stars 100k
 

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG+1 (t3000)
MP1 (t2960)
MP2 (t2930)
MP3 (t2970)
CO (t2970)
Button (t2940)
Hero (t2980)
BB (t3080)
UTG (t3170)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls t20, <font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t60) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t49</font>, BB calls t49, UTG folds.

Turn: (t158) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t139</font>, BB calls t139.

River: (t436) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t420</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to t840</font>, Hero calls t420.

Final Pot: t2116

Any value for shoving here?

Devo

Re: Weird river spot bottom boat stars 100k
 

I shove here. He pretty much never gets to the river with a better hand maybe a8.

Re: Weird river spot bottom boat stars 100k
 

i shove too

Re: Weird river spot bottom boat stars 100k
 

are they calling with a worse often enough?

Re: Weird river spot bottom boat stars 100k
 

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are they calling with a worse often enough?

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It's a spot where I think he folds a huge percent of the time, but you have the best a ton so you might as well shove and hope he calls with AK or something stupid.

Re: Weird river spot bottom boat stars 100k
 

woah shove here, people are dumb at poker

Re: Weird river spot bottom boat stars 100k
 

It's crazy how running bad skews your judgement. I was convinced that he is calling with me beat way more than 50% of the time and was going to show up with A8.

Actually, though... I feel like one of my big leaks has been making dumb big bets on the end when I think I am good/should be good but am not going to get value from a worse enough hand enough of the time to merit shoving or whatever. Is my thinking skewed by being shown the nuts so many times on the river in spots like this lately? What might I be missing in my reads in these situations? Combination of both?

Like in this situation, how are we getting to the decision to shove there being correct considering ranges, unknowns tendencies to do stupid things, etc.

Devo

Re: Weird river spot bottom boat stars 100k
 

You realize he is probably raising with any 8, right?

Why are people saying he has AK? That is like the least likely hand he has here.

He would probably snapcall a shove with 82o. Shove.

Re: Weird river spot bottom boat stars 100k
 

trivial fold you're beat every time

edit: whens the last time you've seen a river bluff minraise???

Re: Weird river spot bottom boat stars 100k
 

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trivial fold you're beat every time

edit: whens the last time you've seen a river bluff minraise???

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QFT

openfold river