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Mason Malmuth 11-28-2007 10:00 PM

Tournament Poker for Advanced Players: Expanded Edition
 
Hi Everyone:

We now have the book and it is being shipped out to those of you that ordered it.

Best wishes,
Mason

Doc T River 11-28-2007 10:21 PM

Re: Tournament Poker for Advanced Players: Exanded Edition
 
Which means it will be in bookstores, when?

Mason Malmuth 11-29-2007 03:58 PM

Re: Tournament Poker for Advanced Players: Exanded Edition
 
It usually takes five to ten days for the books to begin to appear in the major chain stores. We have orders and are in the process of filling them now.

Best wishes,
Mason

BabboonBoy 11-30-2007 07:11 AM

Re: Tournament Poker for Advanced Players: Exanded Edition
 
Just saw this listed, going to have to check it out. Thanks for all of your work.

Gonso 12-01-2007 04:22 AM

Re: Tournament Poker for Advanced Players: Exanded Edition
 
I'm still reading this new edition free copy arrived today FTW), but I just love this Sklansky quote on page 242 (regarding a Gap Concept matter):

"This is pure math and not open to debate."

Good stuff right there.

My early impression is that it's written in sort of a mixed fashion. While some of it is similar to NLHE:TAP as a collection of general concepts, then you've got a new NLHE quiz and hand charts thrown in there.

Fair warning to players with the 1st version: this book is what it is - an expanded version of the original TPFAP. Don't buy this expecting a whole new book, you'll be disappointed. Even with the NLHE material and updates, longtime 2+2 readers will see a lot of familiar material. The S-C numbers from NLHETAP have re-appeared, for example.

Still, there are a lot of good tuneups throughout the book and the improvements will be great for 1st time readers and cash-only players trying to expand. Any modern poker tournament book should cover NHLE with more depth than the other games, since that's really what most tourneys are.


Shandrax 12-01-2007 06:29 AM

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Since you mention the SC numbers, I wonder if "The System" got improved?

1p0kerboy 12-01-2007 11:28 AM

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Since you mention the SC numbers, I wonder if "The System" got improved?

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See Kill Phil.

Doc T River 12-01-2007 01:32 PM

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How did you get a free copy?

Gonso 12-01-2007 02:45 PM

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How did you get a free copy?

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Did the cover

Edit: Which was tried in several colors, btw, but Mason didn't have anything in orange so we made it orange. For the record Mrs. Gonso and I preferred blue.

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/7...luecopyrs1.jpg


Gonso 12-01-2007 02:52 PM

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Since you mention the SC numbers, I wonder if "The System" got improved?

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Yes, there's actually a small sub-chapter called "Improving the System." It seems solid on the surface, at least for the purpose of providing a noob with an easy to learn and quick tourney strategy. In particular, Sklansky notes a couple of "obvious" problems with the original System and makes the needed tweaks. This area won't be of interest to anyone with any real playing experience anyway so most 2+2'rs won't care.

Doc T River 12-01-2007 02:57 PM

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How did you get a free copy?

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Did the cover

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You "did" the cover? You had sex with the cover? Dirty prairie dog.

Sorry, could not resist. Seriously, I will have to go to Amazon and see if they show it.

Okay, I have been to Amazon and I did not really like the cover. Seemed excessively wordy.

Gonso 12-01-2007 03:11 PM

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You "did" the cover? You had sex with the cover? Dirty prairie dog.

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LDO
http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/9053/545de7.jpg


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Okay, I have been to Amazon and I did not really like the cover. Seemed excessively wordy.

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If you're talking about the Table of Contents on the front cover, that had nothing to do with me. When I turned it in it didn't have a TOC or the pile of chips on it. It was pretty much an orange version of the one I posted.


Doc T River 12-01-2007 03:14 PM

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What does LDO mean?

Yes, I am talking about the TOC being on the front cover. Since you did not do that, your part of the cover I liked.

Gonso 12-01-2007 03:18 PM

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Thanks. The TOC doesn't do anything for it aesthetically, but if it helps serve the function of selling books then hey, whatever. It's not like we're talking about the Mona Lisa here.

And LDO means, "Like Duh, Obviously"

Doc T River 12-01-2007 03:22 PM

Re: Tournament Poker for Advanced Players: Exanded Edition
 
Sorry for getting away from the book and into cover design, but I think a badly designed cover (which most with TOCs on the cover are, imo) can really detract from sales.

Hopefully, people will be able to look beyond the cover to discover the gold inside.

Gonso 12-01-2007 03:29 PM

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Only Mason knows. I have no idea what sells these things, I just know they can't be really dark.

Getting back to the book itself now that I finished it, I'd say it's about what it's supposed to be: an updated, expanded, and improved version of the original. 1st time readers will benefit most, people who have the old version and liked it would probably find this worthwhile. If you thought the first version sucked and have read NLHETAP plus everything on NLHE tourneys, you probably won't care for this.

Doc T River 12-01-2007 03:32 PM

Re: Tournament Poker for Advanced Players: Exanded Edition
 
As I don't have the original, I am really looking forward to it. Too bad that I am a American player or I would use the 5 book deal to get this, Harrington's present books, and Professional No Limit Volumes 1 and 2.

Gonso 12-01-2007 03:35 PM

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Professional No Limit Volumes 1 and 2

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I have also had sex with these covers.

If you play tournaments, Harringtons are very good, TPFAP, Snyder's Poker Tournament Formula, and Moshman's SNG book will help also.

PNL1 is pretty good, but that's for cash.

Doc T River 12-01-2007 05:34 PM

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Professional No Limit Volumes 1 and 2

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I have also had sex with these covers.

If you play tournaments, Harringtons are very good, TPFAP, Snyder's Poker Tournament Formula, and Moshman's SNG book will help also.

PNL1 is pretty good, but that's for cash.

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Good job on the cover for PNL1 and so cannot wait to see the cover for PNL2.

fraac 12-02-2007 01:14 AM

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Same but blue.

Doc T River 12-02-2007 01:38 AM

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Same but blue.

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I am sorry that you are feeling sad.

David Sklansky 12-02-2007 03:10 AM

Re: Tournament Poker for Advanced Players: Exanded Edition
 
[ QUOTE ]
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Since you mention the SC numbers, I wonder if "The System" got improved?

[/ QUOTE ]

Yes, there's actually a small sub-chapter called "Improving the System." It seems solid on the surface, at least for the purpose of providing a noob with an easy to learn and quick tourney strategy. In particular, Sklansky notes a couple of "obvious" problems with the original System and makes the needed tweaks. This area won't be of interest to anyone with any real playing experience anyway so most 2+2'rs won't care.

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Your post was erroneous. Improving The System was already in the earlier edition.


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