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Grinding2Ecstasy 11-05-2007 05:39 PM

[100nl] Squeeze 3bet attempt w TT vs. TAG and limpers...
 
UTG+1 is 24/12, 88% C-bet, 80% fold to c-bet 4/2/5 f/t/r aggression. Seemed like a good spot for a raise, did I play this ok?

Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (8 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

SB ($227.70)
BB ($115)
UTG ($81.70)
UTG+1 ($134.60)
MP1 ($32.80)
MP2 ($101.40)
Hero ($98.50)
Button ($143.70)

Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $3.5</font>, MP1 calls $3.50, MP2 calls $3.50, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $18</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls $14.50, MP1 folds, MP2 folds.

Flop: ($44.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($44.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets $38</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $82.50

mce86 11-05-2007 05:41 PM

Re: [100nl] Squeeze 3bet attempt w TT vs. TAG and limpers...
 
If he folds to a c-bet 80% of the time, why did you not c-bet? I dont like the play, if you can't follow up, dont 3 bet it pf.

Grinding2Ecstasy 11-05-2007 05:45 PM

Re: [100nl] Squeeze 3bet attempt w TT vs. TAG and limpers...
 
because AA, KK, and AK i would check the flop.

mab812 11-05-2007 05:52 PM

Re: [100nl] Squeeze 3bet attempt w TT vs. TAG and limpers...
 
no they wouldn't. At least they shouldn't. It is unlikely you're going to get more value from your hand by checking your AA/ AK in most cases.

you would need villain to catch a miracle card to get any action anyways

jetsetboy 11-05-2007 05:52 PM

Re: [100nl] Squeeze 3bet attempt w TT vs. TAG and limpers...
 
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because AA, KK, and AK i would check the flop.

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Is he aware of that ?
Anyway i'm betting with AK this flop every day. AA I think I bet/check behind 50/50. KK I often check but can bet. I think it's a mistake to always check behind this flop (because I suppose u don't bet with AQ/QQ/JJ either).

The Eureka Kid 11-05-2007 05:55 PM

Re: [100nl] Squeeze 3bet attempt w TT vs. TAG and limpers...
 
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because AA, KK, and AK i would check the flop.

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I'm not checking this flop with AK or KK and against a lot of players, especially ones that like to float, I'll be betting AA as well. With KK my c-bet is going to take it down a good amount, I want to keep the lead in the hand, if I get called I can safely assume he has an ace and shut down. It just looks suspicious and kills all your action if you go from 3-betting pre-flop to slowplaying post-flop.

ranka 11-05-2007 07:19 PM

Re: [100nl] Squeeze 3bet attempt w TT vs. TAG and limpers...
 
You showed great strength preflop and this villain fold to CBET% is quite high. Good spot to CBET.

And I would make preflop 3BET little bit smaller - 16$. Or 18$ is fine?

RyanCMU 11-05-2007 07:20 PM

Re: [100nl] Squeeze 3bet attempt w TT vs. TAG and limpers...
 
$35 on flop

Split Suit 11-05-2007 07:26 PM

Re: [100nl] Squeeze 3bet attempt w TT vs. TAG and limpers...
 
anyone think this is a decent spot to just "set-mine" IP. (in """" cuz u can setmine profitably, and also play IP profitably being ur in the CO) just seems like messin around with UTG+1 raise seems kinda silly here, and we will get 4b often (or shud b gettin 4b often), and have to fold that obvi

seems like uncessary variance increase, esp if we arnt gonna CB the flop

(i prefer this squeeze with suited crap than a hand with value that has to fold to a 4b)

GT30 11-05-2007 08:04 PM

Re: [100nl] Squeeze 3bet attempt w TT vs. TAG and limpers...
 
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If he folds to a c-bet 80% of the time, why did you not c-bet? I dont like the play, if you can't follow up, dont 3 bet it pf.

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