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Isura 07-24-2007 11:52 PM

4 large bets
 
These may not be interesting, but w/e. My lines and frequencies are not the same against regulars, so its prob fine posting these. Hand 1, squeeze because he is very loose. Can have any 9/8/7 here. Hand 2, he is 34/24 laggy, but doesn't seem good. I have been quiet. I don't do this often, but sometimes I get out of lines in spots where its hard for me to be bluffing. Hands 3 and 4 they are just your normal slightly loose and weak players.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $293.55
Hero (BB): $353.80
UTG: $77.75
CO: $454.80
BTN: $191.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $8.00</font>, BTN folds, SB calls $7.00, <font color="red">Hero raises to $36.00</font>, CO folds, SB calls $28.00

Flop: ($80) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $55.00</font>, SB calls $55.00

Turn: ($190) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets all-in for $262.80</font>, ($202 total)

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $207.15
BB: $170.95
UTG: $254.10
MP: $277.25
Hero (CO): $262.75
BTN: $200.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $8.00</font>, MP folds, Hero calls $8.00, BTN folds, SB calls $7.00, BB folds

Flop: ($26) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $20.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $56.00</font>, SB folds, UTG calls $36.00

Turn: ($138) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets all-in for $198.75</font>

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $98.00
BB: $200.00
UTG: $184.75
MP: $308.70
CO: $164.70
Hero (BTN): $202.30

Preflop: Hero is dealt 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $8.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $24.00</font>, 2 folds, CO calls $16.00

Flop: ($51) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $35.00</font>, CO calls $35.00

Turn: ($121) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, Hero checks

River: ($121) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, <font color="red">Hero bets all-in for $143.30</font>,

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

Hero (SB): $726.55
BB: $287.80
UTG: $92.75
MP: $202.70
CO: $216.60
BTN: $316.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
4 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $6.00</font>, BB calls $4.00

Flop: ($12) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $8.00</font>, BB calls $8.00

Turn: ($28) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $24.00</font>, BB calls $24.00

River: ($76) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets all-in for $688.55</font>, ($250 total)

ofishstix 07-24-2007 11:57 PM

Re: 4 large bets
 
1: at first glance i hated, but thinking about it i really like it a lot. considering you squeezed pre he can only really cal l wiht 66-tt. nice hand.

2: i dont really like. hes not folding an overpair too often imo, which i think is a lot of his range

3: i like it

4: i dont really see a point

_TKO_ 07-25-2007 12:00 AM

Re: 4 large bets
 
I don't like 2, do like 3, and am confused why you pushed in 4.

What are the numbers in brackets?

ofishstix 07-25-2007 12:01 AM

Re: 4 large bets
 
effective bet size

luckybacon 07-25-2007 12:01 AM

Re: 4 large bets
 
gotta work on that image with the hands [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img], jk obv

4. i think hes going to fold a lot but i think hed also fold to a normal size 3 barrell.
3. def think hes going to fold that river, nh

1. im really undecided on 1. I think a huge part of his range after calling the 3bet and calling the flop hits that board.

barryc83 07-25-2007 12:05 AM

Re: 4 large bets
 
Damn man i never really do any of this stuff, seems kinda spewy to me.

1) I dont like this, i seem to get lolostationedu with any piece bc it looks like youre bluffing and you actually are this time. Trying to get a loose villain off a 9 is suicide IMHO.

2) lol im gonna be a hater here. hes a "lag who doesnt seem good" when he calls the flop hes got something. surely you dont think hes folding a J or any overpair.

3) I like this one bc its hard to see him play a big hand this way. The flop peel is kinda scarry on that flop but when he checks twice I think youll fold out most things he called flop with.

4) I like this one too. Its gonna be really tough for him to call that river w/o a boat especially if you describe him as weak.

Isura 07-25-2007 12:05 AM

Re: 4 large bets
 
Yeah, I think 1 and 2 are most interesting. 3 is kinda standard as long as you would play a set+ like this (I would sometimes). 4 is meh, it is +EV, but more than anything good for metagame [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Isura 07-25-2007 12:07 AM

Re: 4 large bets
 
Pretty important point I forgot. In hand 1, he started with like $50 and has worked it up to a full stack.

_TKO_ 07-25-2007 12:13 AM

Re: 4 large bets
 
[ QUOTE ]
Pretty important point I forgot. In hand 1, he started with like $50 and has worked it up to a full stack.

[/ QUOTE ]

Probably means that he's bad in 3-bet pots. I don't know how to further interpret this information.

viciouspenguin 07-25-2007 12:14 AM

Re: 4 large bets
 
weird to see laggy bluffs from someone else at 1/2


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