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Acemanhattan 10-28-2007 04:41 PM

Bluffing....Bluffing.....Bluffing... FULL HOUSE! Now what?
 
Villian is playing 14/12 over 230 hands I am playing 24/20ish any value in betting the river?

MP: $243.70
CO: $275.10
BTN: $115.80
Hero (SB): $238.70
BB: $192.65
UTG: $212

Pre-Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
3 folds, BTN calls $2, <font color="red">Hero raises to $10</font>, BB calls $8, BTN folds

Flop: ($22) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $14</font>, BB calls $14

Turn: ($50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $38</font>, BB calls $38

River: ($126) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero.....???

luvetoholdem 10-28-2007 04:42 PM

Re: Bluffing....Bluffing.....Bluffing... FULL HOUSE! Now what?
 
I might c/c here.

spivey 10-28-2007 04:43 PM

Re: Bluffing....Bluffing.....Bluffing... FULL HOUSE! Now what?
 
No. Check and expect to lose.

Imrahil 10-28-2007 04:48 PM

Re: Bluffing....Bluffing.....Bluffing... FULL HOUSE! Now what?
 
Ohhh BB cc your raise. C/f.

hotbacon 10-28-2007 04:51 PM

Re: Bluffing....Bluffing.....Bluffing... FULL HOUSE! Now what?
 
turn bet sucks, c/f river

dbc 10-28-2007 04:54 PM

Re: Bluffing....Bluffing.....Bluffing... FULL HOUSE! Now what?
 
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Ohhh BB cc your raise. C/f.

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i agree, i don't think a 14/12 is going to be vb'ing worse and definitely never bluffing on the river...

ProkkeR 10-28-2007 04:55 PM

Re: Bluffing....Bluffing.....Bluffing... FULL HOUSE! Now what?
 
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turn bet sucks, c/f river

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loosbastard 10-28-2007 04:57 PM

Re: Bluffing....Bluffing.....Bluffing... FULL HOUSE! Now what?
 
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turn bet sucks, c/f river

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Acemanhattan 10-28-2007 05:08 PM

Re: Bluffing....Bluffing.....Bluffing... FULL HOUSE! Now what?
 
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turn bet sucks, c/f river

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Sure out of context a turn bet sucks, like if we just woke up in the middle of the hand with 78s and decided to fire this that would be bad. But thats not what happened, I think that his range is pretty face up here, and I would be suprised if anyone thought otherwise. Against his range, we prob have 12% equity at best on the turn. If we check the turn we get to showdown WAAY to often with a bad hand and lose. On the same note, his hand absolutley does not look strong, he is of course going to have JJ 99 and AT here some portion of the time, which he is never folding, but I certainly think: 3 barreling him off of 22-66/77/88 has a ton of expected value. Essentially the only cards I would check on the river are an 8 and a 7

hotbacon 10-28-2007 05:42 PM

Re: Bluffing....Bluffing.....Bluffing... FULL HOUSE! Now what?
 
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turn bet sucks, c/f river

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Sure out of context a turn bet sucks, like if we just woke up in the middle of the hand with 78s and decided to fire this that would be bad. But thats not what happened, I think that his range is pretty face up here, and I would be suprised if anyone thought otherwise. Against his range, we prob have 12% equity at best on the turn. If we check the turn we get to showdown WAAY to often with a bad hand and lose. On the same note, his hand absolutley does not look strong, he is of course going to have JJ 99 and AT here some portion of the time, which he is never folding, but I certainly think: 3 barreling him off of 22-66/77/88 has a ton of expected value. Essentially the only cards I would check on the river are an 8 and a 7

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what

his range is pocket pairs, particularly 77+. no reason to try and bluff a guy off a full house


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