Couple stupid hands from 109 20k on stars
 

Pretty early this is a weird hand, his line looks really strong, but i dont think i can fold right?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

MP3 (t2600)
CO (t3870)
Button (t2420)
SB (t5980)
BB (t3670)
UTG (t4965)
UTG+1 (t2965)
Hero (t4025)
MP2 (t1675)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t150</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, SB calls t125, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (t350) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t100</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t400</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t5830</font>, Hero ......

Stupid Preflop decision... no reads, cause im not paying attention.. neways if i win this hand im the chipleader, but if i fold im still in great shape. FWIW the EP raiser, reshoved pretty fast.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

CO (t2900)
Button (t3720)
SB (t6965)
BB (t2055)
UTG (t3545)
UTG+1 (t6610)
MP1 (t2515)
Hero (t8350)
MP3 (t1375)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to t400</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t400, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t1500</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to t6610</font>, Hero......?

Re: Couple stupid hands from 109 20k on stars
 

call 1, fold 2

1 you see lower 2 pair and pair + straight draw a ton.

2 i guess this is close but i fold since EP raiser is UTG+1 and raised to 4 bb (stars 4bb raise tell ftw)

Re: Couple stupid hands from 109 20k on stars
 

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(stars 4bb raise tell ftw)

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4x tell is not particularly helpful here. It tells me that he generally has a hand that he doesn't want action on, doesn't want to see a flop with but is not going to release. Given the subsequent action, perhaps we can now take 99-TT and AQ out of his range, but that still leaves us with JJ+ and lots of AK (if the tell is reliable, somewhat less AA). I just don't see him folding or calling JJ here, but I'd expect a pause, I guess.

I think this is really hard/close without reads on SB but I'd probably ship it in.

Re: Couple stupid hands from 109 20k on stars
 

i definitely call 1 because of the amt of hands that will use this line that arent AJ/K9, and I fold hand 2 because I'm inclined to put SB on JJ+/AK and MP as 99+, AK and throwing those together makes QQ so marginal that I don't mind passing. im way more worried of SB.

Re: Couple stupid hands from 109 20k on stars
 

The correct thing to do is to do the thing that clayton said to do. The correct reason to do it is the reason that clayton gave for doing it.

Re: Couple stupid hands from 109 20k on stars
 

First hand is an easy call IMO...his range is pretty wide, including worse 2pr and combo hands. You'd have to be against a rock of crazy proportions to lay it down.

Hand 2 is probably a fold given how deep you are; you could be against AK and a squeeze, or AK and JJ, but those are best case scenarios. That said, I tend to call in this spot with QQ too often. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] I auto-muck JJ here though, and AK as well.