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jimpo 11-26-2007 02:22 PM

NL100: QQ river flush against a calling station
 
Villain is 57/5/0.33 calling station, 60 hands. I am the usual TAG.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($181.85)
UTG ($57.65)
Hero ($160.70)
CO ($179.75)
Button ($97)
SB ($108.80)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $7</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls $6.50, BB calls $6, UTG folds.

Flop: ($23) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $17</font>, SB folds, BB calls $17.

Turn: ($57) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $36</font>, BB calls $36.

River: ($129) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero ?

- Value bet? How much? If value bet, do you make a plan against a check raise?
- Flop / turn? Especially turn - what hands do we want value from? What are we protecting against?
- I guess the bets on flop + turn are too small. Go ahead, convince me why.

spivey 11-26-2007 02:23 PM

Re: NL100: QQ river flush against a calling station
 
I shove for value.

AllIn3High 11-26-2007 02:27 PM

Re: NL100: QQ river flush against a calling station
 
- Value bet? How much? If value bet, do you make a plan against a check raise?

I'd make a smallish valuebet like $50 that I expect him to call w/ a wide range, I wouldn't be suprised if he's capable of calling w/ 2 pairs here.

I'm definitly folding to a check/raise, there's no way he's bluffing or doing this with a worse hand. A calling station that check/raises this river is taking you to value town w/ the ace of hearts every time.

- Flop / turn? Especially turn - what hands do we want value from? What are we protecting against?

I'm betting this 100% of the time vs. described player, because he's probably calling the flop w/ any ace, possibly any king, definitly any pair, any gutshot etc. We want to get value / charge him to draw.

- I guess the bets on flop + turn are too small. Go ahead, convince me why.

I think they're OK even though I'd probably be $42 or so on the turn, because he's a calling station, so take him to value town.


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