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HitMe1Time 11-16-2007 05:38 PM

Is this river ok to fire?
 
Absolute Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
5 players
Converter

Hero: $200
Villain: $300

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $4</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $14</font>, BB folds, Button calls.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($29, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $20</font>, Button calls.

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($69, 2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($69, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $60</font>

Results:
Final pot: $69

LOwrestling2001 11-16-2007 05:43 PM

Re: Is this river ok to fire?
 
no, this is bad because you aren't repping any hand except 67 that hit a runner runner straight which you never have here, or MAYBE an AK trying to get value out of a lesser hand, but AK wanting value would probably bet a little less. also, do you have stats on villain? why are you 3betting him with that hand?

EasyAs1-2-3 11-16-2007 05:48 PM

Re: Is this river ok to fire?
 
This is gross all the way. Only 3-bet that sort of hand if he is abusing/raping btn raises and then only for PF steal unless you flop 2pr or something. Don't like the flop donk at all, if you wanna CR fine, thats showing strength after the 3bet and you've got FE + outs. River bluff is quite bad imo unless you have a strong read he's downy soft on the river...Also some sort of reads/stats are helpful to provide.

Bode-ist 11-16-2007 05:57 PM

Re: Is this river ok to fire?
 
this is gross. you'll get looked up here w/ plenty of hands if villain is thinking at all.

LOwrestling2001 11-16-2007 06:56 PM

Re: Is this river ok to fire?
 
there is nothing wrong with the flop play, it's not a donk either, he was PF aggressor. however, c/r sounds better, you have good equity against AK, and other pocket pairs can't call that C/R. that said, once again, river is c/f.

sweeng8 11-16-2007 07:17 PM

Re: Is this river ok to fire?
 
you cant check the turn and bet the river- there is nothing that you are really representing here. This idea of con betting the flop, checking a missed board on turn, then deciding to stab at the river is generally screaming a weak attempt at a bluff.
Dunno why you reraised in the first place, but from then on your play is fine flop and turn. Your flop bet probably bought you a free card on the turn, but if you dont bet the turn, you shouldnt bet the river here


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