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lastchance 04-23-2007 08:07 PM

Why one should FPS as a villager
 
We must understand the goal behind FPSing. As a villager, your FPS should benefit the village objectively. You should want OTHER people to FPS. I will redefine FPSing for the term of this post.

There is one major benefit to FPSing, and one minor benefit.

The major benefit of FPSing is to make wolves miss the seer (or power villagers) when they decide to night-kill.

Any FPS must be done with that goal in mind.

When thinking about FPSing, you are thinking about giving the wolves false information about the roles of people. Every FPS must have this goal in mind. Your goal must not be to avoid lynch because you think village is stupid. Your goal must not be to play. Your only goal is force the wolves to make a suboptimal night-kill, whatever it is.

Freerolling is an example of a good tactic one uses to make wolves miss. Dropping fake seer hints is another example of a good tactic.

I've already discussed freerolling. I'll link to it later.

By dropping fake seer hints, you don't want to look like you're just drawing a kill. What you want to do is to act like a seer. You want to communicate your peeks effectively and unobtrusively as possible. Remember to step it up a little if your "peeks" are getting lynched. DMK is a master of doing this, and he should probably be writing this section, but that's the general gist of it.

Be blatant when the seer is going to be blatant (d2 of a 9 player turbo wolf lynched d1). Be subtle when the seer is going to be subtle (most of the time). Don't look like you're drawing a night-kill. Just give hints as effectively as possible. And use this metagame when you're seering. It's all for naught if you don't use this cover.

Faking seer to avoid lynch is not an example of a tactic that one should use liberally, because it benefits wolf games so much. When thinking about this play, make sure that is about making a wolf make suboptimal kills, because it provides a huge downside the above two plays DO NOT do (screwing with village lynches which generally shouldn't happen).

Effective in spots, yes, but not as hugely +EV as the other two tactics I have given.

In any case, the entire point of FPSing as a villager is to screw with wolf kills so they miss the seer. Not doing it causes seers to get killed, which makes villages lose.

There are two level to werewolf: The village lynch, and the wolf kill. Not playing werewolf at the second level will lose games that should be won.

GetThere1Time 04-23-2007 08:09 PM

Re: Why one should FPS as a villager
 
no

LuckayLuck 04-23-2007 08:12 PM

Re: Why one should FPS as a villager
 
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Zurvan 04-23-2007 08:15 PM

Re: Why one should FPS as a villager
 
If villagers were more concerned with finding the wolves than outsmarting them, villages would win more than they do.

fmxda 04-23-2007 08:16 PM

Re: Why one should FPS as a villager
 
maybe

LuckayLuck 04-23-2007 08:17 PM

Re: Why one should FPS as a villager
 
what I would like to see happen more often is more villagers making the following statements near-nighttime who usually don't "FPS". Consider this the first step. It's very +EV, especially when it comes from somebody who usually doesn't do this stuff.


"If I die tonight, let it be known that I thought that X, Y, and Z were villagers." X is the number of seer peeks that should have happened by then.

GetThere1Time 04-23-2007 08:17 PM

Re: Why one should FPS as a villager
 
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how was LOTR btw?

LuckayLuck 04-23-2007 08:19 PM

Re: Why one should FPS as a villager
 
FPS gets a bad name from random villagers doing crazy things such as claiming Gollum. However,

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"If I die tonight, let it be known that I thought that X, Y, and Z were villagers." X is the number of seer peeks that should have happened by then.

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this is not really FPS
it's a 100% true statement.

That one should make, to give the seer cover.

LuckayLuck 04-23-2007 08:19 PM

Re: Why one should FPS as a villager
 
lol crosspostaments

LuckayLuck 04-23-2007 08:20 PM

Re: Why one should FPS as a villager
 
I wouldn't have claimed Gollum as any other role than who I claimed as

that's all I'll say about that [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
AND FINE, EVEN THEN IT WAS BAD. FINE.


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