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MATT111 11-17-2007 11:50 AM

3 street bluff that seemed mandatory 5/10
 
No history with villain. He seems tagish and may be a regular in this game (I`m not). On the river it is obvious he has TP or an overpair. Problem is he probably expects me to follow through with my whole range a decent amount. Anybody gives up on this somewhere?

Absolute Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $10 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Hero ($2060)
SB ($565)
BB ($1909.05)
UTG ($2346)
MP ($1456)
CO ($947.55)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $50</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($115) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $90</font>, UTG calls $90.

Turn: ($295) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $200</font>, UTG calls $200.

River: ($695) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $488</font>,

homeboy604 11-17-2007 12:15 PM

Re: 3 street bluff that seemed mandatory 5/10
 
3 bet pf. give up on turn as played.

MATT111 11-17-2007 12:20 PM

Re: 3 street bluff that seemed mandatory 5/10
 
Why you prefer to 3bet preflop?

LouisCyphre 11-17-2007 01:00 PM

Re: 3 street bluff that seemed mandatory 5/10
 
If you think top pair or better are likely I don't think I will follow through on the river. Most of the time I assume he calls the turn with the intention of calling the river as well.
(Also you should remember that villain can see your hole cards and will call you with AK/22.)

Renton 11-17-2007 01:07 PM

Re: 3 street bluff that seemed mandatory 5/10
 
i think if you are planning on 3barreling this, you should bet more on the turn. I don't think your 2/3rd pot bet is carrying much weight here, considering that if you had AA/set/flush u'd probably bet more like 270.

Trivial 11-17-2007 03:04 PM

Re: 3 street bluff that seemed mandatory 5/10
 
this river card is effectively a blank so i can't see him folding anything he called the turn with, seems like he's been playing for pot control from the start and you're exactly the kind of aggro monkey this line is designed for [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

MATT111 11-17-2007 05:16 PM

Re: 3 street bluff that seemed mandatory 5/10
 
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this river card is effectively a blank so i can't see him folding anything he called the turn with, seems like he's been playing for pot control from the start and you're exactly the kind of aggro monkey this line is designed for [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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I agree with this. Otoh there are like a million combos I represent with my turn bet that beat villain`s hand, so given he knows I know what he has I have to barrel this river some % of the time. You think the conti-check 3 streets line means villain basically never folds?

Requin 11-17-2007 05:20 PM

Re: 3 street bluff that seemed mandatory 5/10
 
Seems fine

duh 11-17-2007 05:20 PM

Re: 3 street bluff that seemed mandatory 5/10
 
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Also you should remember that villain can see your hole cards and will call you with AK/22

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muxplust 11-17-2007 06:06 PM

Re: 3 street bluff that seemed mandatory 5/10
 
i think its fine


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