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kewl_cph 07-23-2007 07:25 AM

NL100: Overpair CRAI on flop. When do we fold?
 
Second orbit, so no reads on villian.

With the flop texture and villians stack I snapcalled his CRAI. I later began thinking it was a borderline call. How dry must the flop be for me to fold and how big a stack must villian have for me to fold here?


Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $99.55
UTG+1: $72.75
CO: $147.50
Button: $130.35
SB: $78.10
BB: $42.10

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $4</font>, 4 folds, BB calls.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($8.5, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $7</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises all-in $38.1</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($84.7, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $84.7)


River: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($84.7, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $84.7)


Results:
Final pot: $84.7

Daddy Warbucks 07-23-2007 07:26 AM

Re: NL100: Overpair CRAI on flop. When do we fold?
 
Unless villain is an unbelievably huge nit, never fold this ever.

EDIT: Stack sizes, don't EVER EVER fold

Roger Mainfield 07-23-2007 07:27 AM

Re: NL100: Overpair CRAI on flop. When do we fold?
 
Ahhh snap call? Villian started with 42bbs, and it's an extremely drawing flop. No one is going to say fold this.

oyvindgee 07-23-2007 07:30 AM

Re: NL100: Overpair CRAI on flop. When do we fold?
 
Flop could be T62r and it would still be a snap call.

spyderracing 07-23-2007 07:53 AM

Re: NL100: Overpair CRAI on flop. When do we fold?
 
If you took a T26r flop and put it in a jar filled with dessicant and then threw it in a toaster oven it wouldn't be dry enough to fold given stack sizes. Obv you lost the hand, bummer.

eigenvalue 07-23-2007 07:54 AM

Re: NL100: Overpair CRAI on flop. When do we fold?
 
This is an easy call.

BountyKilla 07-23-2007 08:28 AM

Re: NL100: Overpair CRAI on flop. When do we fold?
 
DO not fold....

ycjason 07-23-2007 08:34 AM

Re: NL100: Overpair CRAI on flop. When do we fold?
 
with As.. almost never, maybe 3 bet pot against nit, flop QKx and get CRAI for POT+, you should fold As as mostly likely you are against a set of Qs or Ks here

with smallish over pair lower than Ts, there are many situation a fold is correct.

1gotth3nuts 07-23-2007 11:23 AM

Re: NL100: Overpair CRAI on flop. When do we fold?
 
dont fold ever b/c villain is so short

Sciolist 07-23-2007 11:26 AM

Re: NL100: Overpair CRAI on flop. When do we fold?
 
I cannot think of a single flop I would ever fold with these stack sizes. I was going to say Kh Qh Jh, but I can see him showing up with AK, naked Ah, Ah Q, etc.


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