Tough 15/30 hand
 

Live 15/30

I have 77 and open raise in the HJ. The only thing resembling a TAG 3-bets next in. Everyone folds to me and I call. TAG's range is 77+, ATo+, ATs+, KJs+, KJo+.

Flop: J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
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Whats our plan for this hand?

Re: Tough 15/30 hand
 

check call the flop and donk safe turn, or cr the flop.

Re: Tough 15/30 hand
 

i C/C the flop and donk a non A, K, Q, T turn card, otherwise C/F.

Re: Tough 15/30 hand
 

I seriously consider capping preflop depending on image/history/table conditions.

My standard line is to check raise the flop, but that's more of habit and not well-thoughtout. Can someone explain the benefits of donking the turn. Just to force hands like AT to fold instead of allowing them to check behind?

Re: Tough 15/30 hand
 

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i C/C the flop and donk a non A, K, Q, T turn card, otherwise C/F.

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If we get raised on the turn, we're folding right?

Re: Tough 15/30 hand
 

Bet/3-bet. donk turn and give up if he calls.

Re: Tough 15/30 hand
 

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My standard line is to check raise the flop, but that's more of habit and not well-thoughtout. Can someone explain the benefits of donking the turn. Just to force hands like AT to fold instead of allowing them to check behind?

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Against more aggressive players I would check/call donk turn so that we don't get outplayed by someone 3-betting us on the flop. Against more passive players, I check-raise donk because if they go nuts on you, you know they have you beat.

Re: Tough 15/30 hand
 

By C/R this flop you are representing a hand like AJ/KJ/QJ. Villain will not be able to call the turn with what he thinks is a 3 out hand. We also put 88/TT in a spot to make a major mistake.

We should be prepared for a flop 3-bet and what our action will be. This of course will be player depended. A default line against unknowns could be to call the 3-bet, c/call turn, c/f river assuming the turn is a safe card. Your default line should be geared toward the general aggressiveness/straightforwardness of the games you play.

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i C/C the flop and donk a non A, K, Q, T turn card, otherwise C/F.

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If we get raised on the turn, we're folding right?

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yes.

Re: Tough 15/30 hand
 

Ok, I check/called the flop, planning to donk a safe turn.

Turn: 10 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Do I now check/fold? Check/call? I don't like either option.