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sqwisssssss 10-24-2007 08:31 PM

stacked off on turn........standard? NLCASH
 
i usally 3 bet this in the big blind but sometimes i smooth call for strategic reasons. dont know how i really felt about this one but i didnt walk away beating myself up at all. we played about 800 hands and neither one of us cracked the whole time. we both played aggressive and our ranges were not tags nor overly aggro. i tip my hat off to him. stacked me......i told him gg and went to bed.

standard?

FullTiltPoker Game #3951361040: Table Kier (heads up) - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 8:00:11 ET - 2007/10/24
Seat 1: Mabru Kersano ($201.80)
Seat 2: shnurrrrrrrp ($128.95)
Mabru Kersano posts the small blind of $0.50
shnurrrrrrrp posts the big blind of $1
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to shnurrrrrrrp [Ad Js]
Mabru Kersano raises to $3
shnurrrrrrrp calls $2
*** FLOP *** [As Jc 2d]
shnurrrrrrrp checks
Mabru Kersano bets $4
shnurrrrrrrp raises to $13
Mabru Kersano calls $9
*** TURN *** [As Jc 2d] [3s]
shnurrrrrrrp bets $27
Mabru Kersano raises to $93
shnurrrrrrrp raises to $112.95, and is all in
Mabru Kersano calls $19.95
shnurrrrrrrp shows [Ad Js]
Mabru Kersano shows [5d 4d]
*** RIVER *** [As Jc 2d 3s] [9s]
shnurrrrrrrp shows two pair, Aces and Jacks
Mabru Kersano shows a straight, Five high
Mabru Kersano wins the pot ($257.40) with a straight, Five high
shnurrrrrrrp is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $257.90 | Rake $0.50
Board: [As Jc 2d 3s 9s]
Seat 1: Mabru Kersano (small blind) showed [5d 4d] and won ($257.40) with a straight, Five high
Seat 2: shnurrrrrrrp (big blind) showed [Ad Js] and lost with two pair, Aces and Jacks

JSmith2007 10-24-2007 08:49 PM

Re: stacked off on turn........standard?
 
Pretty standard I guess. Not something where you can put him exactly on 54 but not where you can call knowing you're ahead 100% of time (22 and 33 come to mind) but I definitely 3 bet this preflop regardless of your strategic reasoning.

MasterLJ 10-24-2007 08:57 PM

Re: stacked off on turn........standard?
 
I'm trying to think how many buyins you'd need to be playing for to fold this on the turn... probably 4-5+.

mayday4379 10-24-2007 09:43 PM

Re: stacked off on turn........standard?
 
i start to get worried on the turn when you were raised on the flop, then lead the turn and get raised again.

Either way, i play it the same and lose a little over a buyin.

Nichomacheo 10-24-2007 09:55 PM

Re: stacked off on turn........standard?
 
Fair range here?:

Hand 0: 67.778% 67.49% 00.28% 7350 31.00 { AdJs }
Hand 1: 32.222% 31.94% 00.28% 3478 31.00 { 22, A3s-A2s, 54s }

sqwisssssss 10-24-2007 09:57 PM

Re: stacked off on turn........standard?
 
[ QUOTE ]
i start to get worried on the turn when you were raised on the flop, then lead the turn and get raised again.

Either way, i play it the same and lose a little over a buyin.

[/ QUOTE ]

no, i check raised the flop.....then led the turn like a good little fishy that i am.

Dromar 10-24-2007 10:10 PM

Re: stacked off on turn........standard?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Fair range here?:

Hand 0: 67.778% 67.49% 00.28% 7350 31.00 { AdJs }
Hand 1: 32.222% 31.94% 00.28% 3478 31.00 { 22, A3s-A2s, 54s }

[/ QUOTE ]

Looks good to me. I'd say the hand was played fine.

sqwisssssss 10-25-2007 12:19 AM

Re: stacked off on turn........standard?
 
thanks guys. appreciate the numbers.

Nibster 10-25-2007 12:56 AM

Re: stacked off on turn........standard?
 
Off topic, but why did you play a good player for 800 hands? It's not worth it at these levels with the rake.

sqwisssssss 10-25-2007 01:42 AM

Re: stacked off on turn........standard?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Off topic, but why did you play a good player for 800 hands? It's not worth it at these levels with the rake.

[/ QUOTE ]

agreed.

but i had the guy stuck about 140 and he was reloading so why should i quit the guy.

i also think its good to play some long sessions heads up, play tough and never crack or blow up and just hand over the money like i see so many others do.

do you know this guy i played?


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