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flopmonster 12-19-2006 06:02 PM

interesting river spot vs roothlus in stars 50r
 
2nd hour. roothlus had been playin a lot of pots so far. i don't really put him on a 9 since he checked behind the turn but I can't imagine he would call a shove on the river with a q so i see no point in raising in case of the small chance he has a 9. thoughts?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (8 handed) internettexasholdem.com

SB (t4295)
BB (t2950)
Hero (t24585)
UTG+1 (t5975)
MP1 (t5525)
MP2 (t16760)
CO (t9895)
Button (t8850)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t600</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls t600, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls t400.

Flop: (t1900) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets t800</font>, BB folds, Hero calls t800.

Turn: (t3500) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP2 checks.

River: (t3500) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t2200</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to t4400</font>, Hero

ASPoker8 12-19-2006 06:15 PM

Re: interesting river spot vs roothlus in stars 50r
 
You cant fold, obviously

I think you have to raise here.. If you are sure hes not calling a shove with a Q, make it like 9000 or something silly like that.

I'd probably shove though...

adanthar 12-19-2006 06:18 PM

Re: interesting river spot vs roothlus in stars 50r
 
reraising is giving money away

call quickly, though.

RetiredAt22 12-19-2006 06:20 PM

Re: interesting river spot vs roothlus in stars 50r
 
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If you are sure hes not calling a shove with a Q, make it like 9000 or something silly like that.

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When is this ever a smart move? Why make a bet you "know" wont get called with a Q when it will most definitly get called with a 9, and your stack is gone.

That play makes no sense, plus im sure roothlus is smart enough to know that a smallish raise on the river with a 9 is a better play than a large raise. after all its more important to extract a few chips than make the all in and get no call.

shaundeeb 12-19-2006 06:31 PM

Re: interesting river spot vs roothlus in stars 50r
 
Bet the flop, I really don't see him checking here if he has 89s or A9s that he cced with PF.

flopmonster 12-19-2006 06:33 PM

Re: interesting river spot vs roothlus in stars 50r
 
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Bet the flop, I really don't see him checking here if he has 89s or A9s that he cced with PF.

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i should have mentione this in the OP, but earlier in the 2n hr i raised from ep and roothlus called and one other dude and i checked flop and ended up check/folding river to him. based on that i thought checking would be the best play. but maybe your right.

T_Mac 12-20-2006 04:48 AM

Re: interesting river spot vs roothlus in stars 50r
 
shove...he could easily have AA/KK/case Q, and its less likely he'd check a 9 on the turn

billyjex 12-20-2006 04:50 AM

Re: interesting river spot vs roothlus in stars 50r
 
your goal is to stack someone and it's going to be very hard to do that unless you bet the flop

Rocco 12-20-2006 06:02 AM

Re: interesting river spot vs roothlus in stars 50r
 
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reraising is giving money away

call quickly, though.

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Why is that? You don't think he'd call with hands that Hero beats?

adanthar 12-20-2006 05:29 PM

Re: interesting river spot vs roothlus in stars 50r
 
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reraising is giving money away

call quickly, though.

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Why is that? You don't think he'd call with hands that Hero beats?

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maybe exactly AA and absolutely nothing else.


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