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Wow, is all I can say. I don't get it???

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he had a bad feeling ya know....

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on a human level a great decision. admireable

e: reminded how Gabe talked about there being no mercy in poker few episodes back.

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DB looked sick; I think it was more empathy than anything. 600k is nothing to Guy, but it would really matter to DB. I think he started saying all that "I had a bad feeling" stuff after he realized how weak it made look. KUDOS to him.

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For those of us that couldn't find the episode, what happened?

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Benyamine loses 50K instead of 200K.

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Benyamine loses 50K instead of 400K of equity.

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For those of us that couldn't find the episode, what happened?

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<font color="white">Degenyamine and Guy get it all in on a K53 2 club flop A8 of clubs for DB, K5 for Guy

pot is 1.2M or something like that

Guy first wants to run it once, then offers whatever DB wants, then tells DB that he'll just take what was in the pot before the huge raising (around $100K I think), saving DB like 200K in equity</font>

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Benyamine loses 50K instead of 200K of equity.

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how did i typo this twice

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Didn't realize how [censored] rich this guy was.

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i have been watching HSP and havent seen this episode. how do you people know or seen this? was there an episode on tuesday as well as monday?

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Y would u think Guy is dumb? He knows what he did and equity/EV or anything else for that matter is nonexistent in his poker game. He plays for fun and is such a nice guy that the last thing he wanted to do was deal a great financial blow to someone who otherwise is a nice guy also.

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i have been watching HSP and havent seen this episode. how do you people know or seen this? was there an episode on tuesday as well as monday?

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i have been watching HSP and havent seen this episode. how do you people know or seen this? was there an episode on tuesday as well as monday?

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Somebody posted a leaked video of episode 15. It has been deleted already.

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well thank you very much for ruinging the next episode for us! mod put spoiler alert on thread title!

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well thank you very much for ruinging the next episode for us! mod put spoiler alert on thread title!

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its the week after next actually

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well thank you very much for ruinging the next episode for us! mod put spoiler alert on thread title!

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Nobody ruined anything u nit!!

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Y would u think Guy is dumb? He knows what he did and equity/EV or anything else for that matter is nonexistent in his poker game. He plays for fun and is such a nice guy that the last thing he wanted to do was deal a great financial blow to someone who otherwise is a nice guy also.

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Heartwarming but depressing at the same time. The supposedly largest high stakes poker game ever played becoming a play money fest and its biggest pot influenced by the opponents' diverging financial status, which is exactly the thing that table stakes poker is supposed to neutralize. I'd like to think that if the stake meant that much to me that I'd either 1) not show up and play 1) not shove allin with the nut flush draw OR 3) not accept Guy's charity. Seems lame to have it all ways.

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Heartwarming but depressing at the same time. The supposedly largest high stakes poker game ever played becoming a play money fest and its biggest pot influenced by the opponents' diverging financial status, which is exactly the thing that table stakes poker is supposed to neutralize. I'd like to think that if the stake meant that much to me that I'd either 1) not show up and play 1) not shove allin with the nut flush draw OR 3) not accept Guy's charity. Seems lame to have it all ways.

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db has to eat dude.

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Can someone post how the hand went down?

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Y would u think Guy is dumb? He knows what he did and equity/EV or anything else for that matter is nonexistent in his poker game. He plays for fun and is such a nice guy that the last thing he wanted to do was deal a great financial blow to someone who otherwise is a nice guy also.

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Heartwarming but depressing at the same time. The supposedly largest high stakes poker game ever played becoming a play money fest and its biggest pot influenced by the opponents' diverging financial status, which is exactly the thing that table stakes poker is supposed to neutralize. I'd like to think that if the stake meant that much to me that I'd either 1) not show up and play 1) not shove allin with the nut flush draw OR 3) not accept Guy's charity. Seems lame to have it all ways.

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If the roles were reversed it definitely would have been different and I think Guy knows that. I sort of view the whole debaucle as a sort of angleshoot in some way. Not the hand in particular but the game in general. Guy was definitely exploited here for having so much money and playing against people who otherwise are playing above their heads.

It is extremely lame to have it all ways. What has poker come to where a guy can push all in like DB did, get caught a dog in a huuugge pot, and have Guy say forget the extra 120K you raised before you tried to semi-bluff me for my hard earned money.

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Can someone post how the hand went down?

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DB: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
GL: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Farha bets $12,000
DB raises to $40,000
GL reraises to $165,000
DB reraises allin for ~600K total
GL calls

they dont do a turn and river and guy collects the 12+40+40+pf

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Where can we find that leaked episode ?

Or is this illigal ?

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first db asks how many times there are going to run it. gl says once. after some thought guy offers him to just play for whats in the pot, db says ok. then after some more thought guy offers to take whats in the pot already. db says ok to that too. soo lame

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obv Guy figured it was a coin flip and believes he made out like a bandit scooping 70k...

and why they keep saying theres 5 mill in play...should be 5.5 if Gold busted?

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but whatever that foundation is for the people receiving the money probably need it more than Degenyamine.

i mean i just dont get the point fom showing mercy for someone like degenyamine, sure hes prolly a nice guy but theres thousands of kids ina frican that u could help so much with that money and degenyamine jsut gonna blowm it away anyway...

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yeah i thought of that too but he obv thought he was going to lose and thats 600k already going to the charity that wouldnt if he lost the pot.

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and ffs who shoves a flushdraw against someone like guy, did he expect him to ay down KJ if thats what he had? well maybe he would have but would he really 3b flop with that? i mean why on earth shove a draw there? terrible play, especially against that type of player.

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Guy knew he was a favorite.

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He genuinely seemed like he felt bad for DB. The look on DB's face was sick. At first Guy didn't even want to run it twice, but then he saw DB and let him take his money back!!!!

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wtf, 600k is a lot of money even to poker pros in th ebig game, to lose that much in one hand is sick. normally caps at 100k even in the big game, so being in a situation where you are a 13/7 dog for 600k would prob not be pleasant.

i agree with ^^^ steel, guy really did seem to feel bad for DB. should have kept the 120k as well though - for the foundation.

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david looked absolutely destroyed after he saw Guy's cards

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yes but what the hell did he think he had?

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david looked absolutely destroyed after he saw Guy's cards

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i really don´t get what david wanted to see after his push. judging from the hsp coverage, guy is very loose/passive both before the flop and on the flop. he had a bet and a raise in front of him and still reraised so he had to have a hand. 2nd, he´s a billionaire fish and there was no way he was ever going to fold, so benyamine had to expect a call and being way behind when getting called.

pretty degen "my balls are bigger than yours" move obv. and it got even more ridiculous by instantly accepting guys offer.

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if i were DB i would have ran it once and hoped i hit my flush draw...

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It is extremely lame to have it all ways. What has poker come to where a guy can push all in like DB did, get caught a dog in a huuugge pot, and have Guy say forget the extra 120K you raised before you tried to semi-bluff me for my hard earned money.


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Yeah that seems to happen alot nowadays... not. I find Guy's attitude really admireable.. even if the money does not matter that much for him it was really nice what he did.

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if i were DB i would have ran it once and hoped i hit my floushdraw...

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fyp for frenchness

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shaniac,

"I'd like to think that if the stake meant that much to me that I'd either 1) not show up and play 1) not shove allin with the nut flush draw OR 3) not accept Guy's charity. Seems lame to have it all ways."

I dunno, I think you could say pretty similar things about big buyin tournament poker with all the people who are sponsored/staked/have deals/trade etc. In this case, they did the variance reduction (ok fine, in this case also a nice gift from a billionaire) after the fact rather than beforehand, but it's the same thing really - people playing in games far bigger than they can really afford bankroll-wise on their own.

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shaniac,

"I'd like to think that if the stake meant that much to me that I'd either 1) not show up and play 1) not shove allin with the nut flush draw OR 3) not accept Guy's charity. Seems lame to have it all ways."

I dunno, I think you could say pretty similar things about big buyin tournament poker with all the people who are sponsored/staked/have deals/trade etc. In this case, they did the variance reduction (ok fine, in this case also a nice gift from a billionaire) after the fact rather than beforehand, but it's the same thing really - people playing in games far bigger than they can really afford bankroll-wise on their own.

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You make a valid point, I guess, but it seems a little bit off, because he didn't take a conscious "variance reduction" approach, he made the highest-possible variance play and then received an unexpected gift/bailout (but I suppose that describes a lot of tournament pros, too) and did it DURING the hand.

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this isj ust absolutely sickening.. if it is alot of money to benyamine, he shouldn't be playing with it then..

db got the biggest suckout of his life