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cbboy 10-02-2007 06:34 PM

$400NL. QQ in blind battle. Thoughts?
 
Villain is 22/18/3 or so. We are playing together on 3 or 4 tables. I have been playing really aggro this session. I have 3-bet him a few times and he folded. I think he 3-bet me a few times on another table and I folded. He is starting to play back at me a little bit though. This is the first big hand we have played this session.


Party Poker
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$2/$4 Blinds
6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

<u>SB: $581.00</u>
<u>Hero (BB): $526.00</u>
UTG: $404.00
MP: $402.40
CO: $773.70
BTN: $597.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
4 folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $14.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $40.00</font>, SB calls $26.00

Flop: ($80) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $56.00</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $134.00</font>, Hero calls $78.00

Turn: ($348) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($348) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets all-in for $352.00</font>


What are your thoughts on this hand? I assume PF is std? Does anyone 3-bet flop here? What do we do if he bets turn? Are we calling (or pushing over his bet if it isn't an all-in)? What do you think about the river? Are we usually ahead here? Do you like the push or would you prefer betting a little less?

pokerkai 10-02-2007 06:39 PM

Re: $400NL. QQ in blind battle. Thoughts?
 
do you normally 3bet that small to a SB steal? i 3bet more preflop... 50ish.

i 3bet the flop fairly often here because hes going to have overpairs that hell call with (especially if youve been playing back a lot) and draws that youd like to charge.

Benzooor 10-02-2007 06:42 PM

Re: $400NL. QQ in blind battle. Thoughts?
 
I don't think shoving the river gives you value from hands you beat, so yes I would bet ~110 and fold to shove.

Praetor 10-02-2007 06:45 PM

Re: $400NL. QQ in blind battle. Thoughts?
 
i would shove teh flopz

ikestoys 10-02-2007 06:46 PM

Re: $400NL. QQ in blind battle. Thoughts?
 
never, ever fold here. style really if you push turn or flop

AAismyfriend 10-02-2007 06:48 PM

Re: $400NL. QQ in blind battle. Thoughts?
 
I like this.....your line looks super fishy on the river, and I think you're always ahead. I think this is a spot where villain could definitely talk himself in to making a hero call.

Maulik 10-02-2007 06:49 PM

Re: $400NL. QQ in blind battle. Thoughts?
 
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I don't think shoving the river gives you value from hands you beat, so yes I would bet ~110 and fold to shove.

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I don't think this can be good.

Benzooor 10-02-2007 06:54 PM

Re: $400NL. QQ in blind battle. Thoughts?
 
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I don't think shoving the river gives you value from hands you beat, so yes I would bet ~110 and fold to shove.

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I don't think this can be good.

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I'm still trying to learn, would you care explaining for my benefit?

cbboy 10-02-2007 06:58 PM

Re: $400NL. QQ in blind battle. Thoughts?
 
Its a pot sized raise PF so the size is fine imo. And I agree that b/f river for 110 is atrocious. So you guys just like shoving the flop? Do you shove the turn once he checks?

aditya 10-02-2007 07:06 PM

Re: $400NL. QQ in blind battle. Thoughts?
 
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Its a pot sized raise PF so the size is fine imo. And I agree that b/f river for 110 is atrocious. So you guys just like shoving the flop? Do you shove the turn once he checks?

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meh, I sometimes shove the flop and sometimes shove (or c/shove) turn. But yeah, once he checks turn, I think you have to push turn.


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