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livestream 11-27-2007 02:34 PM

2000NL QQ weired spot preflop
 
different stacks sizes.
Whats the best play here?Hand ranges?

No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $10/$20
10 players


Stack sizes:
UTG: $1.973.00
UTG+1: $1.980.00
UTG+2: $2.072.00
MP1: $864.90
MP2: $2.247.00
MP3: $5.117.50
CO: $624.00
Hero: $4.430.50
SB: $507.00
BB: $200.00

Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+2 raises to $80</font>, 3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $175</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $350</font>, 2 folds, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises all-in $429</font>, Hero

novel20 11-27-2007 02:40 PM

Re: QQ weired spot preflop
 
If you have no stats on UTG+2, you usually want to reraise all in.

AllTheCheese 11-27-2007 02:44 PM

Re: QQ weired spot preflop
 
? Call? You have no other choice, do you (aside from folding which is ridiculous)? You shouldn't be allowed to raise in this spot.

Also, wtf is $429. It says his stack size is $624.

moldman 11-27-2007 02:48 PM

Re: QQ weired spot preflop
 
Yikes. He cold-calls a 4-bet? I don't think this is a push and I'd lean towards calling here. My plan would be to call here, and raise his flop bet and fold to a push. I think you're looking at KK-AA more often than anything here.

novel20 11-27-2007 02:58 PM

Re: QQ weired spot preflop
 
AlltheCheese, CO is pushing all in for $624, so it should re-open the betting.

Moldman, please re-read the hand history.

CalledDownLight 11-27-2007 03:11 PM

Re: QQ weired spot preflop
 
sick...I don't know, but I think I might just shove here and spike a Q.

livestream 11-27-2007 03:16 PM

Re: QQ weired spot preflop
 
utg+2 15/5 lost 9k over 1k hands at 10/20. is on the weired "tricky" side(but this read is new).

If i remeber right i could push AI. so no overcall here.

What could UTG+2 call here for 270USD?

I MADE A CALL. AND THEN HEinsta PUSHED AI. wtf. I feeled so uuggghhh. I folded. UTG+2 AA, CO KK.

I dont know. I have no clue in this hand.

livestream 11-27-2007 03:18 PM

Re: QQ weired spot preflop
 
Calling was wrong but "right" in this spot?!?!?!

SABR42 11-27-2007 03:39 PM

Re: 2000NL QQ weired spot preflop
 
I'd probably just call preflop the first time around. 4-betting here is overplaying IMO.

moldman 11-27-2007 04:02 PM

Re: QQ weired spot preflop
 
[ QUOTE ]
Moldman, please re-read the hand history.

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Hero 4-bet here and UTG+2 cold-called after raising already raising. He isn't 5-betting his AA or KK because if he has AA, it let's KK fold and if he has KK, the only thing that calls is AA. Good play on his part I think, particularly since he's most concerned about getting Hero's money, and not the CO.


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