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members_only 10-19-2007 07:35 PM

QQ... a Series of Tough Decisions? (50 NL)
 
Villain is 6/4 over 50 hands (all from a previous session, he's just sat down here.)

At the time I thought the river bet was sexy but I'm not sure what I was trying to do in retrospect.

Anyway, comments on all streets welcome (I think they're all interesting.)

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG: $50.70
MP: $49.50
CO: $23.20
BTN: $50.70
Hero (SB): $51.30
BB: $21.20

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $2</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7</font>, BB folds, MP calls $5

Flop: ($14.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, MP checks

Turn: ($14.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $9.50</font>, MP calls $9.50

River: ($33.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $16.50</font>, <font color="red">MP raises to $33 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $16.50

Sniiii 10-19-2007 07:42 PM

Re: QQ... a Series of Tough Decisions? (50 NL)
 
Bet flop please. Find out where you're at, it'll make things so much easier. Given the flop play though, I think I'd play it pretty much like you did.

Ramana 10-19-2007 07:42 PM

Re: QQ... a Series of Tough Decisions? (50 NL)
 
bet flop, bet turn, c/c river
flop chk is very bad imo, turn (edit: i meant river) bet makes no sense as played.

checktheriver 10-19-2007 07:46 PM

Re: QQ... a Series of Tough Decisions? (50 NL)
 
I know 50 hands is a small sample size, but that still means that he's probably tight preflop and wouldn't call your 3-bet wider than 77+,AQ+. Since any pocket pair beats you and he's unlikely to call your turn bet with Ace high, I think you have to check/fold the river, as unpleasant as it looks.

members_only 10-19-2007 07:49 PM

Re: QQ... a Series of Tough Decisions? (50 NL)
 
Is it inconceivable that he calls turn with AK?

checktheriver 10-19-2007 07:51 PM

Re: QQ... a Series of Tough Decisions? (50 NL)
 
Yeah sorry he might call on the turn with AK but the thing is I don't see him turning his hand into a bluff on the river enough for calling to be profitable. He has 88+ way more imo. And I also don't understand why you didn't bet the flop.

members_only 10-19-2007 08:07 PM

Re: QQ... a Series of Tough Decisions? (50 NL)
 
Mmm well because I thought his range for calling my 3-bet was probably very tight, so didn't think there was much value in a flop bet (say we bet the flop... what do you want him to do?)

LiveNow 10-19-2007 08:08 PM

Re: QQ... a Series of Tough Decisions? (50 NL)
 
what on earth. butchered. Bet flop, and as played i think i like check calling river, because you're not deep enough to b/f imo.

bozzer 10-19-2007 08:11 PM

Re: QQ... a Series of Tough Decisions? (50 NL)
 
why would you bet the flop here?

please fill in the following:

[ ] value
[ ] charge draws (a subset of value)
[ ] bluff

Sh@i'tan 10-19-2007 08:14 PM

Re: QQ... a Series of Tough Decisions? (50 NL)
 
[x]value
[x]protection

id bet flop and go from there. as played you gotta fold the river, don't talk yourself into calling b/c u made a weak river bet i highly doubt hes bluffing.


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