FR NL$100: AA on KKx flop against shortie
 

what do i do here?
//edit: and why?

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Hero ($189.35)
UTG ($51.95)
UTG+1 ($103.55)
MP1 ($195.00)
MP2 ($93.50)
MP3 ($35.50)
CO ($108.70)
Button ($82.75)
SB ($82.10)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, CO calls $4, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB (poster) calls $3.50, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $17.5</font>, UTG calls $14, CO folds, SB folds.

Flop: ($44) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero ???

Re: FR NL$100: AA on KKx flop against shortie
 

c/c or c/r ai - you can't bluff a shortie off a K here so rather attempt to get value from J's or Q's.

Re: FR NL$100: AA on KKx flop against shortie
 

we want to get the money in.

he usually does not have a K here and there's little way to find out when he only has $35 left so we want to get the money in every time, since we're usually ahead and want to counteract the times we stack off to Kx.

if he'll bet, c/c is OK, but i don't even really hate donking it and milking him for like $10 on each street. he'll never find a fold that way and if he pushes we call.

Re: FR NL$100: AA on KKx flop against shortie
 

I'd just check and see what happens, kinda way ahead/way behind but you know they will usually bet when way behind, let them pay you off with lower pairs.

If the flop checks through I bet the turn for value.

Re: FR NL$100: AA on KKx flop against shortie
 

I was in the EXACT same situation last night, I led the flop and everyone folded. If someone raised me, I probably would have folded.

Re: FR NL$100: AA on KKx flop against shortie
 

hmm, i can not just fold after any real bet. villian has only like ~$33 behind.


thanks all. looks like i did not play it that bad.
i checked, he pushed, i called, he showed 99...

Re: FR NL$100: AA on KKx flop against shortie
 

Flop is a standard push. Their is nothing to think about imo.

Re: FR NL$100: AA on KKx flop against shortie
 

you notice the action went c/c not push right?

Re: FR NL$100: AA on KKx flop against shortie
 

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you notice the action went c/c not push right?

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I'm telling the OP what I think he should have done on the flop. What actually happened is irrelevant.

Re: FR NL$100: AA on KKx flop against shortie
 

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you notice the action went c/c not push right?

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I'm telling the OP what I think he should have done on the flop. What actually happened is irrelevant.

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What hands that we are beating call the push?
What hands that are beating us fold to a push?
As a result, what is the probability that we're behind if we push and get called?
Alternatively, if we check, what is villain's betting range?
Given that range, what is the probability that we're behind if we check and call?

This is a great opportunity to do some third-level thinking. Don't just say "I push because I don't think he has a king"; rather, say "I check, because doing so will make him think I'm weak, and therefore induce bluffs from a wide variety of hands that villain can escape from if I push."