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Reckless1der 09-20-2007 10:28 PM

Do you ever slow down here?
 
UB, 6-max, 1-2 limit
Hero is BB with AA,
Button is one of the better foes I see around, but at 1-2 UB, that is not saying much. A little too loose and passive pre- flop say upper 30s/ low teens, but tends toward a TAG postflop where he can either find a fold or step up his aggression. Will occasionally overplay marginal holdings post flop. We have a lot of history together and he is relatively easy to tilt.

Preflop:
MP limps, Button raises, Hero 3-towns it from the BB. MP and Button call.

Flop: 9K9r
Hero donks and the others both float it.

Turn: A
Hero donks, MP calls, Button raises, Hero 3 bets it, MP finally bails, Button caps, of course Hero calls.

You have the nut boat but the thought occurs to you that the bastard could actually have Quads. Still, the way the hand has played out, 99 is a small portion of his range as AK, KK, A9, K9s, 10-9s, and maybe some other kind of a flukie 9 are also possibilities. Still, call it a timing tell or MUBS, but the voice is telling you he has it.

River is a 6, no flush possible, do you ever slow down?

djmeehan 09-20-2007 10:34 PM

Re: Do you ever slow down here?
 
Not when there is a maximum of 4 raises per street. Jam that pot flop to river. Maybe if you're in a casino with unlimited heads up raising then I eventually stop after about 10 raises but here he is much more likely to have a smaller full house or to be overplaying something even worse.

milesdyson 09-20-2007 10:37 PM

Re: Do you ever slow down here?
 
"Maybe if you're in a casino with unlimited heads up raising then I eventually stop after about 10 raises"

hahaha awesome

OP:

i'd c/r the river and call a 3-bet but it is probably pretty close because he likely doesn't isolate with K9o/Q9s. A9 vs 99 is only 2:1 but i think there's enough chance he has K9 that you should want more than 1 bet going in.

bobhalford 09-20-2007 10:41 PM

Re: Do you ever slow down here?
 
Are you posting this because he had 99? If so, that's just poker. You should lose 4 bets on the river if he had 99. One of those times I'm happy it's not a NL game.

jba 09-20-2007 10:43 PM

Re: Do you ever slow down here?
 
if he's not just a multitabling donkey and actually can think on the second level you def should not cap. he could easily cap turn with just a 9 because AK is so much or your range but if he still 3bets the river it is a crying call.

rzk 09-20-2007 11:44 PM

Re: Do you ever slow down here?
 
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i'd c/r the river and call a 3-bet but it is probably pretty close because he likely doesn't isolate with K9o/Q9s. A9 vs 99 is only 2:1 but i think there's enough chance he has K9 that you should want more than 1 bet going in.

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i understand what you are saying but isn't he likely to jam the river with A9 and K9s despite the fact that it's not the nuts? these combos are 2.5:1 vs 99. so in order for the river cap to be correct he has to 3-bet your c/r with these hands just 1/2.5=40% of the time or more. do you believe he does that less than 40% of the time?

jba 09-21-2007 12:09 AM

Re: Do you ever slow down here?
 
we 3bet out of the blind and we're going nuts on an AK99 board, we've told him we dont care about trips. cap is terrible against anyone but a drooling moron.

YanMTL 09-21-2007 12:55 AM

Re: Do you ever slow down here?
 
Second nut here, i sure check-raise the river and call a 3bet, no caps. You are screaming AA or KK with your play so if he's willing to raise again, it's looking bad because even A9 should realize that KK is beating him.

Scary_Tiger 09-21-2007 01:15 AM

Re: Do you ever slow down here?
 
4-bet the river all night.

BigBadBabar 09-21-2007 01:39 AM

Re: Do you ever slow down here?
 
lol @ anything other than capping river


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