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billybeartku 11-27-2007 01:12 AM

stars 100, KK btn, 4 bet pot against a reg Tag
 
no stats on him but i've played him for months. (Playing at someone else's computer, no PT, no hud..)
Villain is alainlapaire
advice on all streets appreciated [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

BB: $36.55
UTG: $141.65
MP: $99
CO: $66.40
Hero (BTN): $195.40
SB: $148.10

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $15</font>, BB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $45</font>, SB calls $30

Flop: ($91) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($91) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($91) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $55</font>, Hero ??

spivey 11-27-2007 01:19 AM

Re: stars 100, KK btn, 4 bet pot against a reg Tag
 
Fold.

pineapple888 11-27-2007 01:35 AM

Re: stars 100, KK btn, 4 bet pot against a reg Tag
 
The flop was awful. The river finished you off. Fold.

loosbastard 11-27-2007 01:37 AM

Re: stars 100, KK btn, 4 bet pot against a reg Tag
 
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Villain is alainlapaire

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Fold so fast.

h_ven 11-27-2007 02:06 AM

Re: stars 100, KK btn, 4 bet pot against a reg Tag
 
If you played with him for months, you'd probably know if he's really bad. Since he's got to be half decent aren't you going to put villain's 4-bet calling range on JJ+?

You can't beat anything here, gotta fold.

Bulletproof Monk 11-27-2007 02:25 AM

Re: stars 100, KK btn, 4 bet pot against a reg Tag
 
fold

maybe turning our hand in to a bluff on the flop to prevent being bluffed off later isnt too bad in this spot?

markuisis 11-27-2007 02:26 AM

Re: stars 100, KK btn, 4 bet pot against a reg Tag
 
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fold

maybe turning our hand in to a bluff on the flop to prevent being bluffed off later isnt too bad in this spot?

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terrible

Bulletproof Monk 11-27-2007 02:33 AM

Re: stars 100, KK btn, 4 bet pot against a reg Tag
 
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fold

maybe turning our hand in to a bluff on the flop to prevent being bluffed off later isnt too bad in this spot?

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terrible

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care to explain why?

if our plan is to check behind turn and river and fold to aggression then we are basically giving the pot to him regardless of our cards

Bulletproof Monk 11-27-2007 02:38 AM

Re: stars 100, KK btn, 4 bet pot against a reg Tag
 
ok ill phrase this another way. if vils range is exactly 99-JJ, it is better to bluff the flop if we intend to fold to any aggression later in the hand, does everyone agree?

pineapple888 11-27-2007 02:38 AM

Re: stars 100, KK btn, 4 bet pot against a reg Tag
 
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fold

maybe turning our hand in to a bluff on the flop to prevent being bluffed off later isnt too bad in this spot?

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terrible

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care to explain why?

if our plan is to check behind turn and river and fold to aggression then we are basically giving the pot to him regardless of our cards

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That sounds like an excellent plan to me, because the flop bufu'd us against his range.


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