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Second Toughest 11-21-2007 01:10 PM

Adjusting to Bricks and Mortar
 
Had a quick look but can't find any other threads.

Am about to go on my first casino trip. Regularly play micro limit on line and I would like advice on the adjustments I should make to my game.

Presumably play more drawing hands, bet for value, don't bluff. Anything else, or anything more specific?

Many thanks.

chuckbomb 11-21-2007 02:05 PM

Re: Adjusting to Bricks and Mortar
 
Things that have allowed me to crush live NL (assuming you're playing NL)

1. Play positionally LAG preflop

2. C-bet almost all flops

3. Don't slowplay

4. Overbet nuts/near-nuts on the river

Basically raise preflop frequently in position (playing pretty tight in EP) with hands like 98o and 57s, whether there are limpers or not. Do not adjust your raises to the strength of your hands, just to the # of limpers/size of the pot. I think the positional advantage live is huge - much bigger than online - as live players tend to play vv bad OOP.

Once you start doing this and c-betting frequently, other live players start to think you're a crazy person. Add to this image by showing down some of these marginal hands (or showing your bluffs, which you should make). This is an excellent image to have live.

Once you feel you have established this, you can tighten up a little (but not too much). Here is where it pays off. If you flop a set/straight/flush bet it and BET IT HARD. Furthermore, if you get to the river shove for up to like 2.5x pot if you have a big hand. Since the others think you're crazy, they will pay you off super light.

Note that I do not recommend this style if you're planning on being a regular there. While in the short term, they'll thing you're a lucky spewmonkey lagtard, eventually they'll either lose all their money or catch on that this is the correct way to play, which will kill your profits in the long run. It's also not for the faint of heart, since it can put you in some uncomfortable spots.

Anyway, gl to you.

*TT* 11-21-2007 02:07 PM

Re: Adjusting to Bricks and Mortar
 
you should ask this question in the micro-limit forum, your probably going to get better answers from people who have similar backgrounds as you. Good luck!

BrianBigNFun 11-21-2007 02:24 PM

Re: Adjusting to Bricks and Mortar
 
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2. C-bet almost all flops

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The bluffing I like to do live is to ID the players that almost always always cbet the flop and check raise them- you'd be amazed athow profitable this is at the 1/2 NL tables.

grando 11-21-2007 02:33 PM

Re: Adjusting to Bricks and Mortar
 
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2. C-bet almost all flops

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The bluffing I like to do live is to ID the players that almost always always cbet the flop and check raise them- you'd be amazed athow profitable this is at the 1/2 NL tables.

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yeah, checking the flop behind as the PFR is the new CBet

jeffnc 11-21-2007 02:36 PM

Re: Adjusting to Bricks and Mortar
 
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Had a quick look but can't find any other threads.

Am about to go on my first casino trip. Regularly play micro limit on line and I would like advice on the adjustments I should make to my game.

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Live play is basically the same as the micros online. Limit or NL? What levels do you play and where, and what levels do you want to play live?

Second Toughest 11-21-2007 02:50 PM

Re: Adjusting to Bricks and Mortar
 
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What levels do you play and where, and what levels do you want to play live?

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I play 0.25/0.50 limit on line and will be playing at low limit at Foxwoods. I think the lowest they offer is 2/4 limit so that is probably what I'll play.

Thanks for the advice so far.

BobbyShaftoe 11-21-2007 02:57 PM

Re: Adjusting to Bricks and Mortar
 
Play as big as your bankroll allows live. The rake will be murder at 2/4. If they have a 4/8 game, it will not be tougher than .25/.50 online, and the rake will be a shade kinder.

nyc999 11-21-2007 03:00 PM

Re: Adjusting to Bricks and Mortar
 
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What levels do you play and where, and what levels do you want to play live?

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I play 0.25/0.50 limit on line and will be playing at low limit at Foxwoods. I think the lowest they offer is 2/4 limit so that is probably what I'll play.

Thanks for the advice so far.

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You should have no problem with this game. First and foremost, be patient. Too many players get bored and start playing hands they wouldn't think twice about folding online.

You'll also regularly see 6-8 to the flop, even with pf raises. Don't expect tptk to be good in a lot of situations (although you'll frequently be paid off by weak aces, etc). Also, hands like suited connectors are more valuable because you'll get unbelievable odds.

Have fun.

Ihavenoavatar 11-21-2007 03:00 PM

Re: Adjusting to Bricks and Mortar
 
I have two golden pieces of advice for you. First, play tight and take notice of the hands that go down. When you see a player tilting, gettting frustrated, bored, or doing any of the things that make you play bad, get in there with them. Second, as I know it can be tough, do NOT be intimidated by the fact that you are playing live. You may make mistakes by not posting blinds correctly, not recognizing when it's your action, etc.... but do not worry about this. Don't let any of the intricacies of playing live make you think you shouldn't be there. You belong and you have to know this. To go along with this, do NOT be scared to make mistakes. Unlike online play, people are going to see your face when/if you make a bad play. Don't let this bother you as you are to be looking for the bad plays others make in order to exploit them. If someone laughs at you, take it in stride, don't justify. Just play your game as best as you can and always know that you belong there. Have fun!


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