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primate 11-23-2007 09:06 AM

200nl - 150BB Turn Semi Bluff, Good Spot or Spew?
 
Villain was 22/19/3. More importantly his fold BB to Steal is 70. Over 180 hands. No history.

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

Hero (CO): $293.80
BTN: $271.05
SB: $461.85
BB: $396.45
UTG: $256.75

Pre-Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $24</font>, Hero calls $17

Flop: ($49) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $32</font>, Hero calls $32

Turn: ($113) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $72</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $237.80 and is All-In</font>,

sh58 11-23-2007 09:13 AM

Re: 200nl - 150BB Turn Semi Bluff, Good Spot or Spew?
 
......and his call PFR was what?

here i don't believe he is folding an ace, or a set (77, 88 or 99 are all in his range). actually 78, 79 and 89 are there too.

with your monster draw i would call his turn bet, then get it in if you hit the river.

i doubt he is triple barelling you here w/o a hand that has you beat, so you can fold to a river bet

it's a situation where you are stacking him if you hit almost every time, but you can save $160 when you miss

primate 11-23-2007 09:27 AM

Re: 200nl - 150BB Turn Semi Bluff, Good Spot or Spew?
 
Cold Call PFR was 1.2% Therefore wide range.

All_Inn_Aces 11-23-2007 09:29 AM

Re: 200nl - 150BB Turn Semi Bluff, Good Spot or Spew?
 
Yeah I think he will be callign often enough on the river when we hit for a call on the turn to be better. Also when he doesnt call us on the river is likely to have a large overlap with when he wont call our turn shove...

sh58 11-23-2007 09:34 AM

Re: 200nl - 150BB Turn Semi Bluff, Good Spot or Spew?
 
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Cold Call PFR was 1.2% Therefore wide range.

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wow, he is 3betting really light.

primate 11-23-2007 09:38 AM

Re: 200nl - 150BB Turn Semi Bluff, Good Spot or Spew?
 
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Cold Call PFR was 1.2% Therefore wide range.

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wow, he is 3betting really light.

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Exactly why I thought on the turn I had possibly had lots of FE versus a weak hand.

shandyboy 11-23-2007 10:22 AM

Re: 200nl - 150BB Turn Semi Bluff, Good Spot or Spew?
 
I think i fold pre but anyways...

I call turn, I dont think pushing solves anything apart from being called by 2pair/set/better ace etc. Villain has also led into you twice, i doubt he is bluffing.

You do however have a lot of equity on this board, and as said earlier i doubt he is triple barelling you here w/o a hand that has you beat, so you can fold to a river bet.

is the pf call standard? :I

sightless 11-23-2007 10:41 AM

Re: 200nl - 150BB Turn Semi Bluff, Good Spot or Spew?
 
I call the turn. Our A High could be good on its own a lot of the time

Paul Thomson 11-23-2007 10:42 AM

Re: 200nl - 150BB Turn Semi Bluff, Good Spot or Spew?
 
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Cold Call PFR was 1.2% Therefore wide range.

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wow, he is 3betting really light.

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Exactly why I thought on the turn I had possibly had lots of FE versus a weak hand.

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Yeah, but u want alot of FE against a hand that has us beat. He might fold AJ, but I think he would call with AT. Do you think he ever folds AQ or AK?

primate 11-23-2007 10:51 AM

Re: 200nl - 150BB Turn Semi Bluff, Good Spot or Spew?
 
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Cold Call PFR was 1.2% Therefore wide range.

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wow, he is 3betting really light.

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Exactly why I thought on the turn I had possibly had lots of FE versus a weak hand.

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Can I re-iterate the above.


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