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aba20 07-26-2005 02:22 AM

basic question (for a newbie)
 
$50 on party both villian and I have 60 dollars behind us. He has made $4 dollar raises with 22.

UTG limps, he is a bad player who calls pot sized bets with bottom pair. I raise to $4 with QQ, and he reraises making it 10 to go. What is my plan the rest of the hand and why.

bkar824 07-26-2005 02:26 AM

Re: basic question (for a newbie)
 
I would fold, limp re-raises especially from terrible players usually means that they were "slowplaying" a hand preflop (I don't need to explain how stupid that is.) I play with it all the time in my home games. I pretty much routinely fold to limp re-raises or minbet/re-raise without KK or AA.

Anacardo 07-26-2005 02:32 AM

Re: basic question (for a newbie)
 
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$50 on party both villian and I have 60 dollars behind us. He has made $4 dollar raises with 22.

UTG limps, he is a bad player who calls pot sized bets with bottom pair. I raise to $4 with QQ, and he reraises making it 10 to go. What is my plan the rest of the hand and why.

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If you were deeper stacked, I'd advocate a call for set value; you're done on a flop that doesn't come Q-high. I think it safe to assume that any limp-reraise means aces or kings from any player whom you haven't seen show down a lesser hand.

I also disagree with the replier. The limp-reraise can be a very profitable play in a loose & aggressive game with many pots being raised & reraised preflop behind you.

aba20 07-26-2005 02:34 AM

Re: basic question (for a newbie)
 
Ya, I folded but I felt like a huge wuss for it. And I did almost call for set value. What would you do with two kings in this spot?

vulturesrow 07-26-2005 02:34 AM

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Most donks that make this play however, arent doing based on game conditions. They are doing because, well, they are donks. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Anacardo 07-26-2005 02:46 AM

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Most donks that make this play however, arent doing based on game conditions. They are doing because, well, they are donks. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Too true. This is not a standard line by any means. Remember, also, that a LRR completely gives away your hand (unless you're engaging in some kind of mind-boggling Shania JTs L-RR), so if you're going to do it, you must reraise to an amount that ensures that, should you somehow see a flop, you can open-push it no matter what comes and be correct to do so.

As for kings... see queens advice above, seriously. I'm not sure I have a L-RR hand anywhere in my 100,000+ pokertracker database that wasn't aces or kings. If you've got two kings, it's overwhelmingly more likely that the L-RRer has AA.

aba20 07-26-2005 03:07 AM

Re: basic question (for a newbie)
 
thanks for the info.

Black winter day 10-06-2006 05:59 PM

Re: basic question (for a newbie)
 
Ok, i have to bump this.
That's some sick poker carier in a span of one year.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...part=1&vc=1

Keyser. 10-06-2006 08:03 PM

Re: basic question (for a newbie)
 
lol OP sucks, he'll never make it in poker.

bilbo-san 10-06-2006 08:33 PM

Re: basic question (for a newbie)
 
[ QUOTE ]
Ok, i have to bump this.
That's some sick poker carier in a span of one year.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...part=1&vc=1

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No [censored].

Seriously, If I sat down at a 1c/2c game, I couldn't fold QQ preflop, because I couldn't care enough about $1.

I assume you are practicing for HSP because it plays like NL50 :-)


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