10/20 3-way KK on dry board.
 

Villian is Jackal86, a calling station galore. As there is a shortstack who calls PF for about 1/4 of his stack I think that most ppl (rightly so) would think that I have a legit hand when I bet this flop.

thoughts?

Party Poker Pot-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 handed) converter

Hero ($2548)
UTG ($2030)
MP ($2535)
CO ($401)
Button ($2153.50)
SB ($2501)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $10.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $20, CO calls $20, Button calls $20, SB (poster) completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $100</font>, MP folds, CO calls $100, Button folds, SB calls $100.

Flop: ($400) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $350</font>, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $800</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $1550

Re: 10/20 3-way KK on dry board.
 

I mean these hands are very difficult to play. You aren't gonna get much outta the responses here.

It is either, yeah that is a fold he has a set or you should push cause you have him beat.

There is not much analysis here. These are def tricky spots. The only way to truly make a correct decision here is if you have some solid reads on your opponents.

Re: 10/20 3-way KK on dry board.
 

does he raise that flop w/ QQ-99 possibly?

does he raise at all??

Re: 10/20 3-way KK on dry board.
 

Although his raise might seem small, he raised a perfect amount so that if called, he could push the turn without overbetting the pot. He wanted you to call.

Re: 10/20 3-way KK on dry board.
 

If you called the flop, then I assume his turn action would give you some more info. Given that you're making a decision for your stack, isn't it worth paying 450 for that info? After all, there are 24 overpairs and only 9 sets.

Re: 10/20 3-way KK on dry board.
 

This is push or fold time, not call and see. Cause all you're gonna see on the turn is an allin bet.

Re: 10/20 3-way KK on dry board.
 

a "calling station galore" pushes 100% of turns 100% of the time?

Re: 10/20 3-way KK on dry board.
 

A)Villian is Jackal86, a calling station galore.

B) shortstack who calls PF for about 1/4 of his stack I think that most ppl (rightly so) would think that I have a legit hand when I bet this flop.

C) He still bombs pot.

The only question is, will he do this with QQ-TT....

Re: 10/20 3-way KK on dry board.
 

Does anybody else feel that it makes it much less likely that he has TT, JJ, QQ due to the fact that preflop he only completed with 4 limpers behind?

I would expect that JJ or QQ would put in a substantial raise to narrow down the field, but maybe that's just the way I'd play it. It looks a lot more like 88 or 33 to me.

Barring a specific read that he thinks you would make a CB with AK, AQ type of hands, I think this is a fold. I think it's wishful thinking to hope that he decided to do some weird pre-flop limp play with TT-QQ.

Re: 10/20 3-way KK on dry board.
 

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This is push or fold time

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cause all you're gonna see on the turn is an allin bet.

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If you are willing to commit yourself to this pot, it doesn't make sense to push if opponent is always pushing turn.