3 commerce hands
 

1)

First hand is versus this guy who is apparently a cali regular but is not one of the pros (he was white!). He had some bling on, looked like the businessman type. Made some pretty helpless small bluffs but I hadnt really seen that much.

I raise KTo in MP to 140 (20-40) button calls, he calls in one of the blinds. 3 to the flop of 7c 7s 4c. He checks, I bet 300, button folds he calls.

Turn Kd. He checks, I bet out 860, he insta calls.

River is Tc and before I even intake the river card into my brain he fires out 1400 (insta fire). I??? (He has 10k behind I cover)

2)

CO I forget who it was, gene todd is on the button. I think of gene as tight and on the passive side. CO open limps, Gene todd limps on button, I raise AQo from the BB to 500 (50-100). Both of them call.

Flop Ac Qs 9c. I bet out 1400, they both call.

Turn is 7c. I check, CO checks, Gene todd bets out 3k with a shaky hand (I think he might shake often, not sure what it means). I have both covered, gene prolly has 20k and CO also has ~20k.

3)

UTG limps, CO limps, Button limps, I complete SB with K6o.

Flop comes 6c 4c 4s. I lead out 200 (20-40 again). Only the BB calls. Turn comes Jd. I bet out 550, he hesitates and calls. River comes 2d. I bet out 1200.

Thanks!

-Jason

Re: 3 commerce hands
 

1) Tough one. I think an argument can be made for all 3 options and I also think the decision is very player dependent. I think calling may be the worst option and am trying to find reasons to raise instead of fold but I'm not sure if I can find enough evidence to support it. [censored] it, it's only 20/40.. raise to $4000.

2) I fold pretty quickly against seemingly unknowns.

3) I like.

Re: 3 commerce hands
 

1. call... i don't see any value in raising here.
2. meh, I'm on the fence between calling and reevaluating the river and folding... not sure which is correct.
3. I like the river bet, I think it will push him off J10c, QJc, etc.

Re: 3 commerce hands
 

are these tourney hands or cash game? I assume tourney, but not sure if this matters.

1) I call here and expect to lose about 40% of the time.

2) so read dependant--- with no other info, I find a fold here.

3)Assume you don't have Kc. Like the play up to the river. not sure what the river bet is trying to accomplish. What do you think you can make him lay down? 88 maybe? i really don't think you can represent a 3 here.

Re: 3 commerce hands
 

not sure if it matters, but i was not bluffing the river, am i just on the wrong planet here?

Re: 3 commerce hands
 

all cash hands

Re: 3 commerce hands
 

hand 1, fold; calling and praying for 65 seems a little thin

hand 2, tough spot, fold to shaky hands I guess

hand 3, why lead river? trying to push him off a 4? gl with that.

Re: 3 commerce hands
 

ok, maybe it was a TWO WAY

Re: 3 commerce hands
 

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not sure if it matters, but i was not bluffing the river, am i just on the wrong planet here?

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what hands that you beat call here? do you put him on a under pair or worse 6?

Re: 3 commerce hands
 

i honestly thought some of the time he calls me with a six, and some of the time he folds like 88, and some of the time he calls with a hand that has me owned. Obviously im not trying to push him off a 4, I felt like this guy would probably put in a raise here with a 4 on some street, but most good players will not so you have a good point.