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sprstoner 05-14-2006 09:14 PM

$114 turbo stars#1- big pair
 
i have three big pair hand histories that happened in 3 different sit n goes in a row. i will put them in 3 separate threads. please give me advice on what you would do and why. i have only been playing these for about 2 weeks. i am losing money, but not much, not yet anyways. i will keep the results out for now. btw, i am new to this forum- i struggle with the layout here, but have been told it is worth dealing with. thanks.

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t100 (8 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t2530)
UTG+1 (t2360)
MP1 (t1360)
Hero (t2015)
CO (t1225)
Button (t2095)
SB (t130)
BB (t1785)

Preflop: Hero is in MP2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t300</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, SB calls t80 (All-in), <font color="red">BB raises to t1785 (All-in)</font>, <font color="gray">Hero ???????</font>

cha59 05-14-2006 09:37 PM

Re: $114 turbo stars#1- big pair
 
can you tell us anything about BB?

sprstoner 05-14-2006 09:51 PM

Re: $114 turbo stars#1- big pair
 
not anything specific that i can remember, this was from a few days ago, and it was a player i have not seen before.

HappyHotdog 05-14-2006 10:13 PM

Re: $114 turbo stars#1- big pair
 
i would fold because its the 114$ level. Is any one doing this with pocket 10s-2s at this level?

Sykes 05-14-2006 10:45 PM

Re: $114 turbo stars#1- big pair
 
I fold, sure he might turn over 99-TT/AK, however even if you put 99+/AKo+ in his hand range you're still a 48/52 dog. If you add in AQo/AQs, it's still 50/50, so I would fold.

schwza 05-15-2006 01:16 PM

Re: $114 turbo stars#1- big pair
 
i would call here pretty quickly. you're giving bb way too much credit if you fold this.

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btw, i am new to this forum- i struggle with the layout here,

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welcome to the forums. they're super useful. if you click on sykes's name, there is an option that says "ignore this user's posts." it's awesome.

suzzer99 05-15-2006 02:15 PM

Re: $114 turbo stars#1- big pair
 
LOL. What is villain's name?

Sykes 05-15-2006 02:46 PM

Re: $114 turbo stars#1- big pair
 
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i would call here pretty quickly. you're giving bb way too much credit if you fold this.

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btw, i am new to this forum- i struggle with the layout here,

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welcome to the forums. they're super useful. if you click on sykes's name, there is an option that says "ignore this user's posts." it's awesome.

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wow, that's so out of left field, and you're calling me an ass? The mirror works both ways buddy.

Barring a read, I don't think this is a easy call since you're calling 1480 more to win 1780 so roughly 1.2 to 1. Against a hand range of 99+/AQo+ you're about a 50.2/49.8 favorite. If you narrow it down to TT+/AKo+, you're a 43/57 dog (1.3 to 1 dog)

I guess the final answer is.. if you don't care about variance, make the call. If you do, fold.

Honestly, the difference is so minimal, it's a moot issue. No one will fault you for doing one or the other.

alwardc4 05-15-2006 02:54 PM

Re: $114 turbo stars#1- big pair
 
By my calculations its 1485 into 2205. Easy call

Sykes 05-15-2006 02:59 PM

Re: $114 turbo stars#1- big pair
 
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By my calculations its 1485 into 2205. Easy call

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you really can't add sb stack into calculations.. But you're right it is 2085 and not 1785, like I proclaimed, however 1485 into 2085 is still 1.4 to 1..

I guess it turns more into a call, but it's not an easy call and reads on villian does help!


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