Fishy plays make for baited calls?
 

Villain is 63.3/0.0/0.61, 30 Hands

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Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero checks.

Flop: (2.40 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls.

Turn: (2.20 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls.

River: (4.20 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 thinks (or at least delays) a whie and raises</font>, <font color="green">Hero ?? </font>

Re: Fishy plays make for baited calls?
 

you should make checking this flop your standard play. so many more hands put bets in when checked to than facing a bet. honestly, check calling all three streets is better than betting the flop. the river is a fold.

Re: Fishy plays make for baited calls?
 

I assume you c/c all 3 streets w/ your plan?

Re: Fishy plays make for baited calls?
 

no i often c/r the flop or c/c twice and donk the river. even c/c c/r. mainly you just need to give him the chance to bluff the flop.

Re: Fishy plays make for baited calls?
 

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no i often c/r the flop or c/c twice and donk the river. even c/c c/r. mainly you just need to give him the chance to bluff the flop.

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With your plays, what is your option when he raises the river (granted that he likely wouldn't have the same hand in both situations.)

Re: Fishy plays make for baited calls?
 

miles,

you make an interesting point, but i think even the small sample for this read:

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Villain is 63.3/0.0/0.61, 30 Hands

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means that value betting TP is going to make more money than checking and hoping he does something stupid.


link,

i crying call the river but folding is better.

Re: Fishy plays make for baited calls?
 

I call, sadly, then take notes if he's the kind of player who hangs in there for a lone overcard, or the kind who tries to bluff the occasional river.

Re: Fishy plays make for baited calls?
 

I'd probably fold, but not feel too happy about having to do so...

Re: Fishy plays make for baited calls?
 

I call. I've seen a number of players who call to the river, don't hit anything, but then raise (presumably because they think it's the only way they can win). Without a better read, I think calling is correct.

Re: Fishy plays make for baited calls?
 

I fold

Re: Fishy plays make for baited calls?
 

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miles,

you make an interesting point, but i think even the small sample for this read:

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Villain is 63.3/0.0/0.61, 30 Hands

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means that value betting TP is going to make more money than checking and hoping he does something stupid.


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My thought too, but didn't dare to go up against miles myself [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]!

Re: Fishy plays make for baited calls?
 

all i can really say is that you gys would be surprised how little pokertracker stats have to do with what these guys bet when checked to in this spot. take the most passive guy ever and he's really gonna bet nearly 100% of his range regardless of what limit and whether it's fullring or shorthanded.