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recallme 10-15-2007 11:10 AM

Yep, this is a ugly riverspot
 
I have Villain on 22/16/3, but more important we had the same spot 1/2 an hopur ago and i folded there, i dunno which hand i had and how the flop texture was, but i showed weakness and he pot shoved river in a 3bet pot.

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $10/$20
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $507.50
UTG+1: $4103
CO: $6095.80
Button: $2786.30
Hero: $4912
BB: $2207

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $60</font>, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $200</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($600, 3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks.

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($600, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $450</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 folds.

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($1500, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB is all-in $1557</font>

Is this AhTh+ or AhAx?

Eagles 10-15-2007 11:56 AM

Re: Yep, this is a ugly riverspot
 
I call pretty fast he's repping exactly one better hand.

MJ of Poker 10-15-2007 02:29 PM

Re: Yep, this is a ugly riverspot
 
c/f flop is standard and i HATE ur pf

AcidKnight 10-15-2007 02:43 PM

Re: Yep, this is a ugly riverspot
 
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c/f flop is standard and i HATE ur pf

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Ban

thabadguy 10-15-2007 02:45 PM

Re: Yep, this is a ugly riverspot
 
snap call that [censored]

recallme 10-15-2007 04:31 PM

Re: Yep, this is a ugly riverspot
 
A 22/16 thinking reg coldcalled my 3bet with another play left to act.
I think his range is strongly towards QQ+,AQ+ right?
Of course AA is the only hand which beats me here, but isn`t it very likely after flop/ turn combo?

imabigdeal 10-15-2007 04:51 PM

Re: Yep, this is a ugly riverspot
 
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A 22/16 thinking reg coldcalled my 3bet with another play left to act.
I think his range is strongly towards QQ+,AQ+ right?
Of course AA is the only hand which beats me here, but isn`t it very likely after flop/ turn combo?

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if he has AA here (esp with Ah) he played it terrible imo

recallme 10-15-2007 07:54 PM

Re: Yep, this is a ugly riverspot
 
Is there any hand he played good, the way he played the hand?

2cards2come 10-15-2007 08:41 PM

Re: Yep, this is a ugly riverspot
 
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Is there any hand he played good, the way he played the hand?

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absolutly not.

you hand is very under repped i would call too.

FionnMac 10-15-2007 10:42 PM

Re: Yep, this is a ugly riverspot
 
i'd probably bet/shove river, as played call.

Kirkrrr 10-15-2007 11:37 PM

Re: Yep, this is a ugly riverspot
 
[ QUOTE ]
A 22/16 thinking reg coldcalled my 3bet with another play left to act.
I think his range is strongly towards QQ+,AQ+ right?


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I seriously don't think AQ calls there after it goes UTG raise and SB 3bet... AK would probably dump it too, so his range is pretty much TT+ imo, so the way I see it there's 2 hands that beat you and that's KK and AA and I don't see KK playing it that way. I'd prolly bet flop, you still figure to have the best hand, river you have to call as played since you played your hand like a re-steal and it's hard to put you on anything at all.

Matter of fact, thinking about this a little more I really like a river check as played provided it's to snap call anything he bets. It's tricky!

Kirk

limon 10-16-2007 12:10 AM

Re: Yep, this is a ugly riverspot
 
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I have Villain on 22/16/3, but more important we had the same spot 1/2 an hopur ago and i folded there, i dunno which hand i had and how the flop texture was, but i showed weakness and he pot shoved river in a 3bet pot.

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $10/$20
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $507.50
UTG+1: $4103
CO: $6095.80
Button: $2786.30
Hero: $4912
BB: $2207

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $60</font>, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $200</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($600, 3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks.

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($600, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $450</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 folds.

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($1500, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB is all-in $1557</font>

Is this AhTh+ or AhAx?

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your calling for a chop...gl!

Veil 10-16-2007 03:13 AM

Re: Yep, this is a ugly riverspot
 
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Is there any hand he played good, the way he played the hand?

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absolutly not.

you hand is very under repped i would call too.

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If hero ended up calling, then I'd say villain played it well. You would have to be out of your mind to call this in a vacuum, against an average/solid player. Villain isn't overly tight so why is everyone putting his hand on such a tight range? Someone brought up the utg raise, but it's 6-handed for crying out loud. Anyway, bb easily has at least any two hearts that add up to 19 or higher, 8h/8 is highly likely, etc. For those of you who would call: I'm glad I make money off you every day [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]. And A/A makes very little sense and probably shouldn't even be thought about...but since so many bring it up somehow, then it makes it an even easier fold.

23act 10-16-2007 04:02 AM

Re: Yep, this is a ugly riverspot
 
call given history + 88 and 99 only hands that make sense


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