Top set vs poss. wrap vs poss. FD, 1/2 PLO
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This is full ring PLO, with 8-9 people at the table. Hero: SB with $200 Villain 1: BB with $100 Villain 2: UTG with $150 Hero dealt A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Three or four limpers, Hero pots out of the SB to $11 Villain 1 BB calls, Villain 2 UTG calls, rest fold. Flop: A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Hero pots for $52 Villain 1 calls Villain shoves for $150 Hero: ??? Reads on the two villains and myself: Villain 1 is a LAGtard and is really really bad. He's been lucky a few times but just generally throws money into the pot with anything and prays. Villain 2 is solid but still a bit LAG, the kind of LAG that knows when to be aggressive against passive opponents. Villain 2 had just hit a bad beat for $300 or so of his stack and might be fuming. I had been playing tight but went through a few recent hands getting check-raised when betting off with AAxx to a blank board, so I might look like an idiot. As I ran through the possibilities of what they could have had, I pretty much just wrote off Villain 1 as he could have anything, such as QTxx, J9xx, etc and I couldn't predict for him. The nature of villain 2, however, gave me a pause as he seems like a good player who wouldn't shove with a sub-prime hand. I put him on something like a high wrap or at the very least the NFD, I just know he's got something definitively solid. Results in white: <font color="white"> I was way too pot committed to fold and shoved, so did villain 1. Villain 1 had 7889, no FD (lol) and villain 2 had JJxx no FD, and I scooped. </font> If I weren't so pot committed, at what point do you fold this, being $52 in the pot with 3 way action? Do I fold Villain 2 had repotted? |
Re: Top set vs poss. wrap vs poss. FD, 1/2 PLO
<font color="green">Call. - Buzz</font>
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Re: Top set vs poss. wrap vs poss. FD, 1/2 PLO
<font color="green">[no, no]</font> u have topset, its not like u can get freerolled.
worst case scenarios: pokenum -o ac qc ah 7h - ks qs td 8d -- as js 9d Omaha Hi: 820 enumerated boards containing As Js 9d cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV Ac Qc Ah 7h 371 45.24 443 54.02 6 0.73 0.456 Ks Qs Td 8d 443 54.02 371 45.24 6 0.73 0.544 pokenum -o ac qc ah 7h - qs ts 8d 7d -- as js 9d Omaha Hi: 820 enumerated boards containing As Js 9d cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV Ac Qc Ah 7h 363 44.27 449 54.76 8 0.98 0.448 Qs Ts 8d 7d 449 54.76 363 44.27 8 0.98 0.552 u should call in the worst case scearios becuase there is already so much in the pot. they could also be blocking each other and have lower sets or top2pair. <font color="green">[no, no]</font> |
Re: Top set vs poss. wrap vs poss. FD, 1/2 PLO
Whoa, relax kids. I wasn't ever going to fold in this situation. The question wasn't "was I right" but "at what point do I get worried."
If stacks were $1000, $300 and $1000 and I led out with $52 with a pot and repot I would hope you'd understand you'd be behind too. Top set vs wrap/fd is something like 40/30/30. |
Re: Top set vs poss. wrap vs poss. FD, 1/2 PLO
Why would you, for any amount, not get your money in, in this spot?
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Re: Top set vs poss. wrap vs poss. FD, 1/2 PLO
if i had $1 invested and had to call $100000 i would.
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Re: Top set vs poss. wrap vs poss. FD, 1/2 PLO
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if i had $1 invested and had to call $100000 i would. [/ QUOTE ] As it happens that can be a leak. |
Re: Top set vs poss. wrap vs poss. FD, 1/2 PLO
Yeah, it is a bit over the top, but realistically your are never going to be playing in a game deep enough where folding top set vs a draw is ever an option.
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