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aargh57 06-18-2007 06:01 PM

Why doesn\'t the Bellagio have a more \"modern\" waitlist
 
In Vegas last week I played a little at the Bellagio. I was surprised that they didn't have a screen with players on the waitlist like other casinos do like MGM. While playing 4/8 I got into a conversation with a dealer that was playing and I asked the dealer about this. She said that it was a political thing but couldn't really discuss it. Was just wondering if anyone knew the reason for this, thanks.

RR 06-18-2007 06:05 PM

Re: Why doesn\'t the Bellagio have a more \"modern\" waitlist
 
I think electronic waitlists are horrible. They are harder to maintian (a brush or florr can't carry the list with them and make changes while they are walking around the room).

TimTimSalabim 06-18-2007 06:15 PM

Re: Why doesn\'t the Bellagio have a more \"modern\" waitlist
 
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(a brush or florr can't carry the list with them and make changes while they are walking around the room).

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That's exactly why I like electronic lists.

RR 06-18-2007 06:16 PM

Re: Why doesn\'t the Bellagio have a more \"modern\" waitlist
 
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(a brush or florr can't carry the list with them and make changes while they are walking around the room).

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That's exactly why I like electronic lists.

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Well if you think the people working in a room can do more for you standing in one spot instead of helping you find your seat or get chips I can see how it would be a good thing.

swope 06-18-2007 06:18 PM

Re: Why doesn\'t the Bellagio have a more \"modern\" waitlist
 
I would also prefer they use a room-key based system for room rate qualification, as there is a huge disconnect between the casino and the front desk. I very nearly didnt get my room discounted when I checked out Sunday at 8:30am because no one was available to verify the integrity of the small piece of paper I had to get updated by the floor everytime I sat down.

Example of a place that works off the room key system; The Wynn. And although the games there arent generally as profitable (in my admittedly limited experience), being able to sign up from my room, monitor my position on the list from my room, their rediculously superior orange juliuses, and the convenience of having my roomkey automagically validate me for the room rate makes the choice between B & W a difficult one.

LasVegasMichael 06-18-2007 06:29 PM

Re: Why doesn\'t the Bellagio have a more \"modern\" waitlist
 
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I think electronic waitlists are horrible. They are harder to maintian (a brush or florr can't carry the list with them and make changes while they are walking around the room).

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It depends on the system.

A general electronic waitlist like Wynn, then yes, I would agree with you, however the more modern system used at places like MGM, TI, and most Stations properties takes care of the problem you addressed, as the dealer has an electronic button board to mark when and where their open seats are, and a message is immediately shown to the brush computer.

The brush computer shows not only which tables have open seats, but which seats they are.

Also, for players with players cards, they swipe in at the table, for ease of comps tracking (and elimiation of hours whores that clock in and then leave).

Dids 06-18-2007 06:29 PM

Re: Why doesn\'t the Bellagio have a more \"modern\" waitlist
 
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I think electronic waitlists are horrible. They are harder to maintian (a brush or florr can't carry the list with them and make changes while they are walking around the room).

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This seems like a problem with a really easy technology fix.

There's a lot about poker room managment that could be impoved with better technology. I still fail to understand (well not really, but...) why more rooms don't have some automated system to communicate open seats to dealers and instead rely on tiny asian women yelling in a crowded room to nobody in particular.

private joker 06-18-2007 06:38 PM

Re: Why doesn\'t the Bellagio have a more \"modern\" waitlist
 
I was told in no uncertain terms that Bellagio refuses the electronic waitlist so that players who grease the floor can get priority.

Then, last time I was there, I gave the floor $10 while asking to be put on the 15/30 list, and it still took over an hour to get a seat as I was given no priority. How much am I supposed to grease them?

TimTimSalabim 06-18-2007 06:41 PM

Re: Why doesn\'t the Bellagio have a more \"modern\" waitlist
 
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I was told in no uncertain terms that Bellagio refuses the electronic waitlist so that players who grease the floor can get priority.

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Exactly. That's what I can't stand. Bellagio needs to come into the 21st century.

Al_Capone_Junior 06-18-2007 07:07 PM

Re: Why doesn\'t the Bellagio have a more \"modern\" waitlist
 
Well the "modern" systems that you see around town may be deceiving to the untrained eye. MGM's system aint bad, but it aint perfect either.

The system in use at harrahs properties, queueos (or chaos, as I call it), is the single biggest piece of garbage ever sold (hook, line and sinker) to a bunch of suckers. Seriously, the paper list is far superior in every way. Not one thing about the chaos system stands out as having any real value. It's slower than dog poo, and I do believe that the programmers who created the software were in fact a thousand monkeys with a thousand typewriters. These morons couldn't even pick a font where someone with a five-letter name can fit in the box. I'd pay you to take it away, but certainly would never buy it. Obviously the people who bought it for all of harrahs 1) never tried it themselves, and 2) have no clue about poker anyway, so thus couldn't tell the difference even if they had tried it.

As for greasing the floor, that can still be done just fine, even with an electronic list.

Al


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