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spliff 11-24-2007 01:27 PM

Card-shuffler
 
I need an auto-card shuffler for my homegame with freinds.

This one is 15$ - is it any good (does it destroy cards) make a lot of noise ?

As2s3s4s5s 11-24-2007 01:40 PM

Re: Card-shuffler
 
2.) What the hell do you expect for $15?

3.) I do not see why you would NEED a card shuffler for a home game with FRIENDS????

4.) Last but not least: LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

spliff 11-24-2007 01:50 PM

Re: Card-shuffler
 
I didn't expect much for 15$ - actually i am not saying anything about it; but i am asking!??

I just think it is strange that there aren't any product beside this crab and a pro shuffler at several thousands dollars.

I would pay around 100$ for a decent shuffler.

I would like a shuffler when playing with freinds because we could spent more time drinking/smoking; rather than shuffling cards.

KampfHase 11-24-2007 02:14 PM

Re: Card-shuffler
 
A friend of mine bought a card shuffler one day. We used for it two hours and then dumped it for the following reasons:

- noise (nearly as lound as a vacuum cleaner)
- cards got stuck inside the mashine during the shuffling process 2 out of 3 times
- cards flashed during the shuffling process and needed to be put back into the deck manually 2 out of 3 times
- you need to run the deck through the mashine 3-4 times and "box" the deck before every run in order to get good, random results
- shuffling by hand does not take as long and is more thorough
- shuffling by hand is cheaper
- shuffling by hand looks cooler
- shuffling by hand just feels more like good poker

spliff 11-24-2007 02:36 PM

Re: Card-shuffler
 
Thanks for the answer; i won't by the damn thing; do it the old fashioned way [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

TheChad 11-24-2007 03:27 PM

Re: Card-shuffler
 
yeah, I'm not big on them. if one of my rich friends was willing, I'd order one of the crappy casino-grade shufflers. The good (read: certified random) casino shufflers are like $4k. uhm, ouch.

Freaky J 11-24-2007 05:59 PM

Re: Card-shuffler
 
i agree with kampfhase 100%
a friend of mine got one and we dumped it after about two hands for all the same reasons as kampfhase. even the most lazy, uncoordinated, people who really hate shuffling and dealing hated the stupid thing.
just use two decks if you want to get rid of down time inbetween hands

EL Burro Loco 11-24-2007 06:55 PM

Re: Card-shuffler
 
[ QUOTE ]
yeah, I'm not big on them. if one of my rich friends was willing, I'd order one of the crappy casino-grade shufflers. The good (read: certified random) casino shufflers are like $4k. uhm, ouch.

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FWIW when they got in table auto shufflers at one of my smaller local rooms I asked the floorman about them and he said they cost like 10k a piece. Though they might be a top of the line version or something. He also told me it is illegal to own the ones they have in casinos here without a license here in Washington St.

pfapfap 11-24-2007 07:20 PM

Re: Card-shuffler
 
We should really have a sticky about this; it comes up every week.

I have a shuffler that came with me at birth, and it's faster than even the 10k models.

Doc T River 11-24-2007 08:41 PM

Re: Card-shuffler
 
I played in a bar poker league venue where the players donated prizes. I donated a card shuffler and the winner of the first tournament after I put it on the prize shelf went straight for the shuffler. He had some kind of congenital defect which made shuffling by hand problematic. He really appreciated it.

Devilboy666 11-24-2007 11:48 PM

Re: Card-shuffler
 
The $15 shufflers are complete junk. You have to run the cards through it several times to get a decent shuffle and that ends up taking 5 times as long as just doing it by hand. There is one option worth looking at if you can't get a casino shuffler - it's this one:

http://www.cardplayer.com/poker-news/art...-market-in-2008

It's not on the market yet but apparently it will do a dealer shuffle (3 riffles, strips and a cut) in 30 seconds and unlike the $15 model it's 100% automatic. And it can be flush-mounted on your table. Price? $480 apparently.

http://media.cardplayer.com/image/s/...hine_Image.jpg

Devilboy666 11-24-2007 11:56 PM

Re: Card-shuffler
 
Here's a video of the $15 riffler in action:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPUmGb2ABXY

Grasshopp3r 11-25-2007 01:24 AM

Re: Card-shuffler
 
Here is a video on how to shuffle.

http://www.howtoshuffle.com/

AlienBoy 11-25-2007 06:18 AM

Re: Card-shuffler
 
DeckMate shufflers (the ones used by casinos, mounted in the table) are $15,000.

AB

Animus 11-25-2007 08:37 AM

Re: Card-shuffler
 
[ QUOTE ]
I need an auto-card shuffler for my homegame with freinds.

This one is 15$ - is it any good (does it destroy cards) make a lot of noise ?

[/ QUOTE ]

It sounds great.

betsmart 11-25-2007 10:46 AM

Re: Card-shuffler
 
You could always use 2 decks, when one is shuffled by one of the folders in the hands.

This way you will always have a deck ready for the next hand.

I think that this will also leave enough time to get drunk and high, since the shuffler would be a guy who isn't smoking or drinking at that time.

Works for my home game.

TobyG 11-25-2007 11:03 AM

Re: Card-shuffler
 
[ QUOTE ]
[...] http://www.cardplayer.com/poker-news/art...-market-in-2008

It's not on the market yet but apparently it will do a dealer shuffle (3 riffles, strips and a cut) in 30 seconds and unlike the $15 model it's 100% automatic. And it can be flush-mounted on your table. Price? $480 apparently.

http://media.cardplayer.com/image/s/...hine_Image.jpg

[/ QUOTE ]
I think that's the first promising shuffler I've seen. The price is still a little steep, but it's much more reasonable than a Deckmate. If they can hit that price point with a quality result, I'd consider it. That being said, until it's a reality, use two decks and have someone shuffle the second while the dealer is handling the current round.

BrianBigNFun 11-25-2007 11:45 AM

Re: Card-shuffler
 
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We should really have a sticky about this; it comes up every week.

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Doc T River 11-25-2007 07:39 PM

Re: Card-shuffler
 
As I posted previously, I play in a bar league that is player dealt and we take turns being the dealer. I shuffle just like the guy in the video (with the cards on the table) except for the little move he makes just before a final shuffle.

Skoob 11-26-2007 05:02 PM

Re: Card-shuffler
 
A good friend of mine only has use of one arm and won't use a shuffler. It's pretty impressive to watch him shuffle and deal with one hand.

JJT 11-27-2007 12:27 AM

Re: Card-shuffler
 
Here's a youtube of the Shuffletech (the pix in the posts):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74i4dZuBvqU

Doc T River 11-27-2007 01:17 AM

Re: Card-shuffler
 
Looks interesting.

south chicago 11-27-2007 06:13 AM

Re: Card-shuffler
 
very promising! that will take care of the card mechanic's. if i can only rid of the aholes. maybe not, than id be broke.

mingorama 11-27-2007 02:53 PM

Re: Card-shuffler
 
ShuffleTech looks like the long-awaited alternative to the ShuffleMasters that only the wealthy can purchase. Their website has busted links, but I'm optimistic about the product.

Zetack 11-27-2007 04:11 PM

Re: Card-shuffler
 
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Here's a youtube of the Shuffletech (the pix in the posts):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74i4dZuBvqU

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If those are supposed to be casino quality chips, I'm not sure how I feel about any quality claims they may make for their product.


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