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Watkins 04-30-2007 06:31 PM

Nasty flop worth a c-bet?
 
So I bet my pretty suited A and I flop a GS, a BDFD and I've still got an overcard but the flop is looking pretty nasty, even though I'm only up against the blinds. Both villains are fairly new to me (I've still got less than 100 hands on them).

The game is generally tight and aggressive and a c/r here from the blinds would be fairly standard. The question is should I c-bet this or see a cheap turn and try to pick up something bigger without paying 1 or 2 SB's for the privilege?

Ultimate Bet
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $1/$2
10 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is MP2 with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
4 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, 3 folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6SB, 3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero ....

Bruce D 04-30-2007 06:41 PM

Re: Nasty flop worth a c-bet?
 
Bet. You have outs if you are behind. Check the turn UI.

BigBadBabar 04-30-2007 06:44 PM

Re: Nasty flop worth a c-bet?
 
gotta bet it. i always cbet when only 2 other guys come along and i raised pf. turn isn't an auto check ui, depends on who comes along, flop action, turn card, etc

bozlax 04-30-2007 07:00 PM

Re: Nasty flop worth a c-bet?
 
[ QUOTE ]
The game is generally tight and aggressive and a c/r here from the blinds would be fairly standard.

[/ QUOTE ]

Re-stealing, if they hit the flop, or regardless?

Watkins 04-30-2007 07:05 PM

Re: Nasty flop worth a c-bet?
 
A small amount is re-stealing from specific players the rest is from people who have connected.

whoshotfirst 04-30-2007 07:07 PM

Re: Nasty flop worth a c-bet?
 
My first thought was, If the c/r is standard, check and don't pay 2SB for your draw instead of 0.

bozlax 04-30-2007 07:20 PM

Re: Nasty flop worth a c-bet?
 
[ QUOTE ]
A small amount is re-stealing from specific players the rest is from people who have connected.

[/ QUOTE ]

You just answered your own question. If you're only getting c/r'd by a player that's connected, you can almost bet/fold, certainly fold the turn UI.

aK13 04-30-2007 07:27 PM

Re: Nasty flop worth a c-bet?
 
Bet/call.

You'll be getting 9:1 assuming its heads up.

4 clean outs to the nuts, 1.5 for backdoor nut flush, and you can probably put like .5-1 on your A outs.

Top off with reasonable fold equity, and that they'd probably 3bet you with AK/KK/JJ.

EDIT: I'd probably bet the turn if it's HU (if we didn't get raised, obviously), regardless of what hits. Think we have good fold equity there too, or if they have QT/AQ/T9 we still will probably have the best hand, and check the river UI.


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