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Grizzlypower87 08-07-2007 10:38 PM

TT on a 5JJ Flop vs. raise
 
Villain is 45/16 and makes a lot of miniraising preflop...
Should I call down or easy fold on the turn?

PartyPoker $400 NL Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(6 handed)</font> HandRecorder v0.9b

Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#FF0000">MP raises to $8</font>, <font color="#FF0000">Hero raises to $28</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP calls $20.

Flop: ($62) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#FF0000">Hero bets $44</font>, <font color="#FF0000">MP raises to $88</font>, Hero calls $44.

Turn: ($238) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">MP bets $124</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $362.

ajloeffl 08-07-2007 10:42 PM

Re: TT on a 5JJ Flop vs. raise
 
Can I ask if it is standard to RR PF with TT in this spot? As played I would probably fold on the flop unless MP had the tendency to sometimes mincheckraise the flop and then check the turn.

DrMagic 08-07-2007 11:15 PM

Re: TT on a 5JJ Flop vs. raise
 
Whats his AF?

ajloeffl 08-07-2007 11:19 PM

Re: TT on a 5JJ Flop vs. raise
 
Can you give us a possible hand range he may be mincheckraising with? Is 77 etc in his range hoping you may have AK/AQ? Does he smoothcall RR's with big pairs? Will he checkraise trips or does he lead out or does he check/call/trap?

Grizzlypower87 08-07-2007 11:30 PM

Re: TT on a 5JJ Flop vs. raise
 
no with big pairs he doesn't make miniraises preflop...trips checkraise and something like 77 is in his range too

LastLife 08-07-2007 11:33 PM

Re: TT on a 5JJ Flop vs. raise
 
This looks like 2 different types of hands:
1. Nuts or Near the nuts
2. 77-99 hand

Can't really go any further. There is not enough information here. With lack of information I would just muck here, but if he has been playing alot like this then I look him up, because that is a very small bet on the turn. I don't know the player though, like I said. This could be either on of the 2 listed above. It is all about how he has been playing.

ajloeffl 08-07-2007 11:49 PM

Re: TT on a 5JJ Flop vs. raise
 
I guess what I'd like to emphasize is that you either fold on the flop OR you call the flop and call the turn. You should not call the flop and fold the turn. You are not going to spike a T often.

Grizzlypower87 08-08-2007 12:02 AM

Re: TT on a 5JJ Flop vs. raise
 
yeah but with a small pair, he maybe checks the turn

ajloeffl 08-08-2007 12:16 AM

Re: TT on a 5JJ Flop vs. raise
 
My first post covered that. If this player is likely to check the turn after this mincheckraise, then you can call. But if he will still bet the turn when you have him beaten, you need to be willing to call that turn as well or you should just fold the flop.


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